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Hell, this is easy. Just look in any White Dwarf battle report. It doesn't even matter if they are over 1500 points, WD lists still get frogstomped by your typical tourney ready 1500 point lists.

lol, well it would kind of ruin all our fun if every dick and harry collected the same rompa stomping army we did because they saw it in White Dwarf, even if you still beat them it's sad that they got their army idea from a $10 magazine while you had to earn your knowledge through skill and practice!

This is really too easy. Here's a "worst possible" Daemon list:

Skarbrand
Herald of Tzeentch w/ we are legion and master of sorcery
Herald of Slaanesh
1 beast of nurgle
1 beast of nurgle
1 beast of nurgle
9 Nurglings
9 Nurglings
9 Nurglings
9 Nurglings
9 Nurglings
9 Nurglings
6 Furies
6 Furies
6 Furies

So there you have it, a 15 kill point list with no scoring units because Nurglings are swarms, everyone except Skarbrand and the heralds is I2 or I3, and their opponent will get to reroll assaults. Even better, the two heralds can't hide in units because of the animosity rules, so they're easy kill points.

ihatehumans wrote:lol, well it would kind of ruin all our fun if every dick and harry collected the same rompa stomping army we did because they saw it in White Dwarf, even if you still beat them it's sad that they got their army idea from a $10 magazine while you had to earn your knowledgefree from the internet

I think that's more correct.

an army of gaunts with as few synapse creatures a possible. I just runs off the board.

willydstyle wrote:

ihatehumans wrote:lol, well it would kind of ruin all our fun if every dick and harry collected the same rompa stomping army we did because they saw it in White Dwarf, even if you still beat them it's sad that they got their army idea from a $10 magazine while you had to earn your knowledgefree from the internet

I think that's more correct.

Hey! Hey! I have to pay $80 a month for my net so that I can cheat on my tests, learn lies on wikipedia and thrash people at my local gaming club who haven't learnt to google yet, I resent the idea that people could get this for FREE!

This is actually an interesting concept for a tournament: For each match, you play using your opponent's army, but receive points for winning just like a normal tournament. Thus, the incentive to make the worst possible lists, and the need to make the best possible use of terrible units.

Has any group ever run such a tournament? I suspect that they would have to have a tie-breaker for when two armies with no scoring units face off in an objective mission... :-)

I really like that idea. Would love to see the results of that. Might even try to give it a shot some time. It would be classic!

Scoring on sportsmanship.
Scoring on Wins


No painting I would say but no proxies either. Might need to make a rule like no reserves. I know you can basically start with no units on the board and a way to make them not come on or some such jazz. Can't lose before the game starts kind of loop hole needs to be avoided. I would say you have to fight no matter what.

Ahem.

Current Imperial Guard Codex:

Schaeffer, plus Chimera with Multi-Laser and Heavy Bolter - 160 points
Kage, plus Chimera with Multi-laser and Heavy Bolter - 120 points
20 Last Chancers each a specialist armed with Master-Crafted Power-Fist, each a Psyker - 1220 points

1500 points exactly.

Any Marine list that I make...

Last chancers

20 specialists all with Plasma pistol, powerfist, carapace armor, bionics, meltabombs
Schafer
Kage
Chimera
1515 pts

2 kps

Well, how about walking Guardians that are non-supported?

All armies that have no synergy are bad.

AlfredTheStrange wrote:Last chancers

20 specialists all with Plasma pistol, powerfist, carapace armor, bionics, meltabombs
Schafer
Kage
Chimera
1515 pts

2 kps

That's illegal. Specialists can't have that much Wargear. They have a strict limit of 15 points on their Wargear. Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Carapace Armour, Bionics and Meltabombs cost 50 points total.

And, just FYI, Master-Crafted Power Fists only count as 15 points against Wargear limits, so you CAN arm them with that...

weirdboy, warphead - 85

weirdboy, warphead - 85

10 gretchin, runtherd - 40

10 gretchin, runtherd - 40

13 gretchin, runtherd - 49

10 flash gitz - 250
more dakka, shootier and blastas on all - 150
Unit total - 400

10 flash gitz - 250
more dakka, shootier and blastas on all - 150
Unit total - 400

10 flash gitz - 250
more dakka, shootier and blastas on all - 150
Unit total - 400



1,499 points

Company Command Squad-no upgrades

Company Command Squad-no upgrades

Platoon HQ

-50 guardsmen, SWS with no specials

Platoon HQ

-50 guardsmen, SWS with no specials

Platoon HQ

-50 guardsmen, SWS with no specials

Platoon HQ

-50 guardsmen, SWS with no specials

Platoon HQ

-20 guardsmen, SWS with no specials

1490 points of useless guard squish

(Note: any wrong points costs are filled with conscripts!)

IIRC it is possible to squeeze 150+ SOB into an 1850pts list. Yes, it would be footslogging, but can you imagine you opponents reaction

Player1: What are you playing?

Player2: About 150 suits of power armour which, if you get close to killing, will be getting 3++ saves.

Player1: Oh, go f***ing hang.

MinMax wrote:And, just FYI, Master-Crafted Power Fists only count as 15 points against Wargear limits, so you CAN arm them with that...

Power Fists cost 20 points under the "current" (about to be "old) IG Codex.

Space Marines are capable of some terrible combinations:

Master of the Forge, Digital Weapons (110)
2x Scouts w/ Teleport Homer (180)
3x Techmarine, Thunderhammer, Servoharness (315)
3x Thunderfire Cannon, Drop Pod (405)
7x 5 man Servitors (490)
===================================
8 2+ save wounds on techmarines.
45 T4 4+ save wounds BS3/WS3 bodies on scouts and servitors... 35 of which do nothing 50% of the time, unless attached to a techmarine.

Here's another gem:

2x Epiolstary Librarian w/ Terminator Armor, Force Dome and Quickening - no shooting weapons!(350)
2x 5 man Scouts (225)
3x 10 man Legion of the Damned (910) Yay! 3+ (I) saves on bolter guys who have to deepstrike.

well this on the heels of another Marine list but here it goes

Vanilla Master of Forge
2x 5 man scout squads

2x 10 man vanguard with 10 thunderhammers/10 plasma pistols

1510 points

Ripper bases, and nothing but.

...

Actually, that'd be hella fun to play.

NinjaPenguin wrote:Ripper bases, and nothing but.

...

Actually, that'd be hella fun to play.

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

6 un-upgraded haemoculi
rest of the points spent on Mandrakes and Hellions.

Tau at 1502

1 - Ethereal,naked with no weapons 50
1 -3x Remote Tower Sensors w/Marker Light & Target Lock, no weapons, Troop Choice - 120
6 - 4x Drone Sentry Turrets with 12" range twin linked fusion blasters and deepstrike insertion - to send these to the far corners of the battlefield and as close to the corners as possible - 3 as troops and 3 as Heavy Support - 1156 points
1- 3x Crisis Battle suit - Adavnced Stabilization, Black Sun Filter & Targeting arrays, No weapons

In all 24 weapons with 12" range al on units that have to deepstrike onto the battlefield. Chances are you could play this with no chance of getting a shot off the whole game.

Actually this could be even worse if you drop a couple of the Heavy Support Drone Sentry Turrets you can take 3 of the non-armed Crisis Battle Suit teams instead of the one and then add Commander Shas'el with Ejection Sytem, Black Sun Filter, Multi-tracker and Target Lock, Command and Control Node, Positional relay and a Shield Geenrator and no weapons for 123 points, That set-up takes you to 1500 and cuts you down to only 16 12" weapons.

Hialmar wrote:Tau at 1502

1 - Ethereal,naked with no weapons 50
1 -3x Remote Tower Sensors w/Marker Light & Target Lock, no weapons, Troop Choice - 120
6 - 4x Drone Sentry Turrets with 12" range twin linked fusion blasters and deepstrike insertion - to send these to the far corners of the battlefield and as close to the corners as possible - 3 as troops and 3 as Heavy Support - 1156 points
1- 3x Crisis Battle suit - Adavnced Stabilization, Black Sun Filter & Targeting arrays, No weapons

In all 24 weapons with 12" range al on units that have to deepstrike onto the battlefield. Chances are you could play this with no chance of getting a shot off the whole game.

Rune Priest, chooser of the slain, auspex, bionics, 102
9 wolf guard body guard, auspex, bionics , 288
Wolf Lord, bionics, auspex, 87
9 wolf guard body guard, auspex, bionics , 288
Iron Priest, basic gear (thunderhammer and bolter/bolt pistol) with 4 thralls, auspex, bionics, 132
Iron Priest, basic gear (thunderhammer and bolter/bolt pistol) with 4 thralls, auspex, bionics, 132
10 Grey Hunters, bolters, frag grenades, wolf totem, 210
Wolf Guard Pack Leader, auspex, bionics, 37
10 Grey Hunters, bolters, frag grenades, 190
Wolf Guard Pack Leader, auspex, bionics, 37

1503 points, and you get 2 useless, weaponless characters, 2 crappy techmarine wananbes who cant even repair, 20 useless, weaponless wolf guard, 8 useless weaponless servitors, and 2 units of 10 grey hunters

Ethereal - 50
Honor Blade - 10

Aun'va - 205

3x crisis suits - 75
3x Shield Generators - 60
3x Advanced Stabilization Systems - 30
3x Targeting Array - 30

3x crisis suits - 75
3x Shield Generators - 60
3x Advanced Stabilization Systems - 30
3x Targeting Array - 30

3x crisis suits - 75
3x Shield Generators - 60
3x Advanced Stabilization Systems - 30
3x Targeting Array - 30

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

6 fire warriors - 60
Pulse Carbines - 0
Photon, EMP grenades - 24

Piranha - 60

Piranha - 60

Piranha - 60

Total - 1534

They kill either ethereal, and watch your entire army run off the board, except for the stingwings.

And it's 14 KP.

Demogerg wrote:Rune Priest, chooser of the slain, auspex, bionics, 102
9 wolf guard body guard, auspex, bionics , 288
Wolf Lord, bionics, auspex, 87
9 wolf guard body guard, auspex, bionics , 288
Iron Priest, basic gear (thunderhammer and bolter/bolt pistol) with 4 thralls, auspex, bionics, 132
Iron Priest, basic gear (thunderhammer and bolter/bolt pistol) with 4 thralls, auspex, bionics, 132
10 Grey Hunters, bolters, frag grenades, wolf totem, 210
Wolf Guard Pack Leader, auspex, bionics, 37
10 Grey Hunters, bolters, frag grenades, 190
Wolf Guard Pack Leader, auspex, bionics, 37

1503 points, and you get 2 useless, weaponless characters, 2 crappy techmarine wananbes who cant even repair, 20 useless, weaponless wolf guard, 8 useless weaponless servitors, and 2 units of 10 grey hunters

A similar list that lets you get up and personal.

Rune Priest 95
Auspex, Bionics, Wolf Pelt
9 Wolf Guard Bodyguard 405
Auspex, Bionics, Runic Charm, Wolf Pelt, Wolf Tooth Necklace
Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 45

Wolf Guard Battle leader 80
Auspex, Bionics, Wolf Pelt, Wolf Tooth Necklace
9 Wolf Guard Bodyguard 405
Auspex, Bionics, Wolf Pelt, Wolf Tooth Necklace
Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 45

6 Grey Hunters with Bolters, Wolf Totem 128
Wolf Guard Pack Leader 50
Auspex, Bionics, Wolf Pelt, Wolf Tooth Necklace
Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 45

6 Grey Hunters with Bolters, 108
Wolf Guard Pack Leader 50
Auspex, Bionics, Wolf Pelt, Wolf Tooth Necklace
Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 45

10 Kill Points,

34 Models. only 12 Bolters, 12 CC weapons and 4 Storm-bolters for weapons

1501 points.

Strategy is to drop as close to enemy units as possible and assault them.

SoB:
Canoness w/ every expensive bit you can muster

2 squads of standard sisters

3 squads of Sisters Repentia.

1500pts of armoured company hands down!

You have to anihalate the enemy for a win 2/3s of the time