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 shrike wrote:

RiTides wrote:Looking good! I can't wait to see some of The Hobbit dwarf models (the ones from the intro of the movie would be awesome, although I don't know if they'll make them / make them yet). Although I will be holding out for the Avatars of War dwarfs

grimhammer dwarves (not in the film, they will probably be in the desolation of smaug next december) are probably going to come out this February, which look awesome:

Spoiler:

but I'm more excited for whenever they release the dwarves of Erebor (with the shields and spears)- as awesome as two-handed hammers are, I do so love my phalanxes, which dwarves have gone without for far too long

Mmmmm, while those do look good, I can't wait for AoW's two-handed weapon dwarfs... I like my dwarfs heroic scale

aye... that would be totally gimli style too

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got my new set of dakka dice today, courtesy of RiTides and Casey's law- thanks fellas!
On it's virgin roll, they scored an average of 3.54- my first set scored an average of 3.4, so yay!

Also, played a game today- 870 or so points, and it started off not in my favour- my main troops (10 dwarves) and two heroes had deployed surrounded by 24 uruk-hai (let by two heroes), while the rest of my army faced two trolls backed up by 12 beserkers and uruks, several wargs and saruman. Also Grima was hanging around, which meant my heroes struggled to do anything with their might points (which is a big deal in my army).
Luckily with the dwarves outnumbered two to one, but being heavily armoured, they managed to spend the entire game (some two and a half hours) locked in combat, tying up a huge portion of the enemy army, and taking advantage of scenery let me take on the uruks and trolls in the center piecemeal, and so by the end of the game, I had about 8 models (4 heroes) sat on the objective, with only saruman (severely wounded) alive running away on his horse, and a couple of uruks in the corner, who had spent too long fighting the dwarves to come to saruman's aid.

I admit though, if it weren't for my insane luck, I'd have lost decisively- the dwarf flank would have fallen withing a handful of turns, and the uruks would have caught my thin green line from behind and destroyed my plan of a more skilled group of warriors bottlenecking a vastly more numerical foe so they couldn't press the advantage.
man of the match for my team was a tough choice, but I'd say either Murin on the flank, who must've killed 6 uruks and survived 2 hours of 4-on-1 combats, my ranger cavalry, who finally got some decent kills (made up thier points, which is saying something), or elladan and elrohir, who as usual, didn't pull off any specific great feat, but held the line and steadily killed a model or two a turn each.

Glad they got through to you, sorry they were a little later than I planned.

Btw, I'm not much into LOTR gaming so I don't know what stuff you need and all that but i have some stuff lying around if you're interested. I've had it since the early days. Some metal characters and some Riders of Rohan, maybe some other stuff.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Glad they got through to you, sorry they were a little later than I planned.

Btw, I'm not much into LOTR gaming so I don't know what stuff you need and all that but i have some stuff lying around if you're interested. I've had it since the early days. Some metal characters and some Riders of Rohan, maybe some other stuff.

It wasn't time sensitive or anything, and you even went first class, so it's all good
Oh, well, if you're offering, I'm a bit of a hoarder- never know what might come in handy

Good stuff! I'll have a look and see what I have tomorrow.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Good stuff! I'll have a look and see what I have tomorrow.

and I'll see what I can make of it
also, possible picture update in the weekend, but it depends how busy I am (mock exams coming up this month)


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Okay, so I got bored- Murin's shield is quite nice (raven decal), which links it to the king's champion's banners, but it's too small for my liking- I was wondering if you guys preferred the normal one as-is or the same shield as my other guys (probably painted differently, maybe gold and iron like my captain):

stick to the lizard men shields... they look good together with dwarves... and that raven shield... you could add it to one of your SM later on

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
stick to the lizard men shields... they look good together with dwarves... and that raven shield... you could add it to one of your SM later on

well, it's attached to his hand, wrist, arm and beard, and it's quite small to begin with- I don't hold out much hope of keeping it intact
though yeah, I'll see about taking it off now...

fresh new blade... that might help...and i cross my fingers for you too

 shrike wrote:
Minor text update:
got my new set of dakka dice today, courtesy of RiTides and Casey's law- thanks fellas!
On it's virgin roll, they scored an average of 3.54- my first set scored an average of 3.4, so yay!

That's great to hear

short update- lizardmen shield is glued and primered, and I am planning on starting another vault warden conversion this evening- pics if I get them done today!

edit: started work on him, hopefully I'll finish gluing and basing him and get him primered and pictured tomorrow.

sounds good!

Finished early, here he is:

They look great from what I can see although needs a little more light for the photos!

yeah, the camera I use is terrible at picking up light, and I like to take pictures as and when I finish them (otherwise I procrastinate), and I do the majority of my painting and modelling in the evenings...
hopefully things will get better in the summer, when it's light outside then

So I've painted Murin and Drar, pics hopefully tomorrow!

because?

Pics as promised:

er.... dwarves with bows??? aren´t they more in favor with crossbows?

but good looking never the less...^^

Dwarves in LotR have bows (though their only siege weapon is a ballista, which is basically a big crossbow:

though I agree- I'd much prefer it if dwarves had crossbows- it fits more with their style (bows are meant for mobility, crossbows for hitting power- in confined spaces (like, oh, I dunno, mines and underground cities?), mobility doesn't really matter a whole lot), plus they're better in the LotR rules
I'm hoping with the release of the hobbit, games workshop will finally have some dwarves to be guided by (no source material for them in LotR), which might prompt them to make crossbows

also, bought two great eagles to add a little hitting power to my army (and to counter my regular gaming buddy's two trolls *grumble grumble*), but I'm puzzling as to how I'm going to transport them- they're too big to fit in my case, what with their huge wings, protruding tail feathers and outstretched talons:

Okay, so after a second game with my eagles (the first one not going too well due to bad tactics and not ideal deployment), I've decided that my good army is now complete (eagles need painting, but no more models to buy or build).

game went something like this:
My army:
Elladan and Elrohir
8 rangers
Murin and Drar
10 dwarf warriors
King's Champion
3 Vault warden teams
Gwahir
Great eagle

Enemy army:
Captain
11 crossbowmen
Troll
Lurtz
10 men
2 Trolls

deployment was 12" away from the middle of the board, opponent deploying most of his force (crossbowmen and 2 trolls) on my right side, infantry and other troll down the center. Hating his crossbows, my entire force deployed down my left side, out of range.
Then followed three turns of moving around so that we met in the middle, but instead of in a horizontal line to us as normal, as a vertical line across the board
I moved my dwarves up in a line along the center, with my rangers sitting to guard my flank against possible attack- eagles sat back. My opponent moved his men down to me to go towards my rangers instead of meeting my line, so I ran my dwarves at him instead, which he responded to by moving his men back up to meet my charge. The two trolls had moved too far down to charge, so I mobbed one with both eagles, but only succeeded in wounding it once.
a couple of turns later, his infantry were scattered, the third troll and lurtz had fled round to the back, and the other two trolls were in combat with my two eagles (who'd since taken a couple of wounds).
after some lucky rolls, both trolls were dead and my king's champion leading some dwarves chased the surviving troll and lurtz and were in combat for a few turns. The two remaining infantry were promptly shot down by my rangers, and half the dwarves and elladan and elrohir ran at the line of crossbows, which brought both heroes down to one wound, but were prevented getting one last volley off by gwahir, who hurled one unfortunate crossbowmen through the others like bowling pins- not wounding any, but knocking them to their backs.
The last few turns basically consisted of my dwarves and eagles mopping up the remaining troops who hadn't fled the field.
End game- enemy army wiped out, sustaining four dwarf warriors as casualties.
not-really-man of the match has to go to my eagles, who killed two trolls and saved my dwarf-and-elf charge from faltering, as well as being a thorn in the side for my opponent the whole game

congratz to your win... which was collected by yon eagles... on this i am particularly looking forward to see some good pics... feathers are always like fur a nice feature on a model...good luck with the paining!

btw...have you seen the new dwarven units by GW?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
congratz to your win... which was collected by yon eagles... on this i am particularly looking forward to see some good pics... feathers are always like fur a nice feature on a model...good luck with the paining!

btw...have you seen the new dwarven units by GW?

aye, painting them's gonna be... interesting

and yes, I do quite like them- not sure about the weird lumps on either side of the helmet, but those can be filed off- really like them other than that though, just a shame I don't like two-handed weapons in the rules... when they come out with the dwarves with spears, then I'll get them, and if I don't like them, I'll use their weapons on these fellas
in any case, I'll probably not be going back to good for at least the summer holidays- my evil army I have planned will take at least until then to muster and paint ^^

Great batrep Shrike! And Great Dwarves too! Can you show a pic of the size of the Great Eagles?

Sure, I'll go snap a pic now ^^



sorry for the mirky quality, it's 11:00pm in the winter here, best I could do

So, played another game- my two eagles, a dwarf king and 10 dwarves allied with a friend's 24 elves, legolas and a captain against Lurtz, 8 crossbowmen, 3 trolls, a captain, 12 men, 5 warg riders and Sharku (750pts a side)
basically we won by a significant margin (lost six dwarves, six elves and both eagles, killed the uruks to a man)
here's how it went down:
Allies' bowmen facing off against the uruk crossbows down the right flank, beside which are the trolls.
My dwarves (in front of eagles) facing off against the uruk infantry down the middle.
Allies' infantry facing off against the warg riders.
First few turns, we both moved towards each other, but kept our bows out of range (so the crossbows don't mow them down), so the crossbows killed a dwarf.
Trolls and men moved forward, wargs facing off against a spread out spear wall.
Eagles take on trolls, kill one, inflict three wounds on the other two (2 on one, 1 on the other), then got overwhelmed, but slowed the centre long enough for the bowmen to gun down most of the crossbows, taking advantage of their mobility against the crossbow's "if you move, you can't shoot" handicap.
Down the left and centre, the two infantry contingents and wargs are facing off, with the two wounded trolls behind them.
I open up a hole in my dwarf line, through which the bowmen, safely out of range of the crossbows, kill the front three wargs.
following few turns, the crossbows are reduced to three men, and there's a big swirling melee between the 12 uruks, 2 captains and a warg and the now 8 dwarves, 12 elves and my king.
Over the next few turns, I lose four dwarves and my ally loses 6 elves, but we kill (with a ridiculous amount of luck) both trolls and several men (heavily reliant on my dwarves' hardiness and my ally's superior fight value.
Then the remaining crossbows charge in, but are quickly overwhelmed by my ally's bowmen led by Legolas.
two turns later, the uruk's force is either dead or fleeing.
I kinda feel bad for my opponent, his rolling was terribly unlucky and ours (90% of the rolling being done by my ally) was insanely fluky


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So, played another game- my two eagles, a dwarf king and 10 dwarves allied with a friend's 24 elves, legolas and a captain against Lurtz, 8 crossbowmen, 3 trolls, a captain, 12 men, 5 warg riders and Sharku (750pts a side)
basically we won by a significant margin (lost six dwarves, six elves and both eagles, killed the uruks to a man)
here's how it went down:
Allies' bowmen facing off against the uruk crossbows down the right flank, beside which are the trolls.
My dwarves (in front of eagles) facing off against the uruk infantry down the middle.
Allies' infantry facing off against the warg riders.
First few turns, we both moved towards each other, but kept our bows out of range (so the crossbows don't mow them down), so the crossbows killed a dwarf.
Trolls and men moved forward, wargs facing off against a spread out spear wall.
Eagles take on trolls, kill one, inflict three wounds on the other two (2 on one, 1 on the other), then got overwhelmed, but slowed the centre long enough for the bowmen to gun down most of the crossbows, taking advantage of their mobility against the crossbow's "if you move, you can't shoot" handicap.
Down the left and centre, the two infantry contingents and wargs are facing off, with the two wounded trolls behind them.
I open up a hole in my dwarf line, through which the bowmen, safely out of range of the crossbows, kill the front three wargs.
following few turns, the crossbows are reduced to three men, and there's a big swirling melee between the 12 uruks, 2 captains and a warg and the now 8 dwarves, 12 elves and my king.
Over the next few turns, I lose four dwarves and my ally loses 6 elves, but we kill (with a ridiculous amount of luck) both trolls and several men (heavily reliant on my dwarves' hardiness and my ally's superior fight value.
Then the remaining crossbows charge in, but are quickly overwhelmed by my ally's bowmen led by Legolas.
two turns later, the uruk's force is either dead or fleeing.
I kinda feel bad for my opponent, his rolling was terribly unlucky and ours (90% of the rolling being done by my ally) was insanely fluky

Not-quite-man of the match has to go to my ally's bows, those 8 men with legolas took out all the enemy crossbows (keeping them off the vulnerable wood elf troops), broke a cavalry charge which could have easily broken through and surrounded the infantry, and also chipped in with mopping up afterwards.
On my side, I didn't really do too much beside providing a few more men to stop his elves being overrun, but my eagles certainly played their part- seriously damaging the trolls and slowing down the centre for three turns (long enough for my ally's bows to take out the crossbowmen and the wargs)
On my opponent's side, I'm sad to say nothing really went well- they were strategically played, but overwhelmingly bad luck kind of prevented anyone to shine through.

Wow! Those look about the same size as a Thunderbolt!- and you get two in a box??
"It comes in Pints!?!?!..I'm getting one!"

 dsteingass wrote:
Wow! Those look about the same size as a Thunderbolt!- and you get two in a box??
"It comes in Pints!?!?!..I'm getting one!"

and yeah, two in a box for £30. Gwahir's on his own for £25, but the only real difference is he's in finecast.

as an unrelated thing I just had to say, here's this:

.>And interestingly, the scenario in the rulebook calls for 5 Great Eagles plus Gwahir right? lol