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New profiles are being added to Army Infinity later today...

 IJW wrote:
New profiles are being added to Army Infinity later today...

3rd edition new profiles or new models? :O :O :O

Spetsnaz and updated Interventors.

 IJW wrote:
Spetsnaz and updated Interventors.

They're up.


The Interventors have all retained their Hacking Device Plus. There are six profiles, but essentially it's really three profiles and the option to take a Fast Panda. Fast Pandas are Movement 20 and have Repeaters. Didn't see an AVA listed.

Kazak Spetsnaz are AVA 2 and there are four profiles. Two are the "Ambushed Camouflage" profiles and two are CH: Mimetism with AD: Parachutist. All the profiles are coming with Marksmanship L2 and Martial Arts L2.

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/army-lists/%5Ben%5DNewProfiles.pdf

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/rules/%5Ben%5DNewRules.pdf

FastPandas are basically Deployable Repeaters that run up to 8" from the Interventor when it's deployed.

Spetsnaz get Marksman L2 with all profiles including the HMG!

..wait, CC 20 for the Spetsnaz? That's.. pretty neat assuming it isn't a typo

It's the same in both the PDF and Army Infinity, so it's a very consistent typo, especially on a model with Martial Arts.

Ah yes, so they are. They are a little more expensive than I was expecting so I can't swap out my Zouaves HMG and 2x Yuan Yuan for two Spetsnaz like I was hoping.. but I'll make room for them somehow!

Um. So where is our Nomad covert shuttle :-)

That's pretty funny!

Also - I hope there's a new ORC Trooper box in our future.

Also - Savalarheima?

Not - Svalarheima?!?

And - JOTUMS!

Whuh, yup that's a new spelling.
And yeah, those ORCs look rubbish compared to most of the range - god knows they need a refresh more than the fusiliers!

I'm hoping it is just a typo and not in fact a new spelling!

Welcome Koni

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping it is just a typo and not in fact a new spelling!

Nay, it's just local spelling, like Rome and Roma .

OMG Becky! those Spetznas will kick some ass. I believe I'll have at least 2, if not more models for their different profiles.
AD: Parachuting Boarding shotgun with Shock Ammo? That ignores Cover for the AP rounds? Yes Please.

Noir wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping it is just a typo and not in fact a new spelling!

Nay, it's just local spelling, like Rome and Roma .

I hope so, otherwise, I'll be sad:

ski2060 wrote:
OMG Becky! those Spetznas will kick some ass. I believe I'll have at least 2, if not more models for their different profiles.
AD: Parachuting Boarding shotgun with Shock Ammo? That ignores Cover for the AP rounds? Yes Please.

I got this wrong initially as well when i read it...., but just a correction: the marksmen L2 only ignores the 'to hit' modifer (i.e. the -3 to BS) it does not ignore the +3 ARM bonus for being in cover. Hence you enemy still gets in +3 ARM bonus, just no negative to the spetz for shooting.

No matter how you slice it though, the Spetz is a very powerful profile! for such lil point cost and SWC... it's crazy, not sure what CB was going for... as someone may already have pointed out, why oh why make a 'sniper' model when everyone will roll with the HMG for only 4 points more.

Luckily I've bought shin and arm pads, ready for whatever Corvus Belli is going to throw.

 Erasoketa wrote:
Welcome Koni

Thanks

^^^Hey everybody's favorite Shock Absorbers. Saludos y Bienvenido, Koni.

Going to be interesting to try that Marksmanship ability. It seems like it will have more impact than the Ambusher ability. Although really, just what Ariadna needed, More Camo markers on the table

ski2060 wrote:
OMG Becky! those Spetznas will kick some ass.

Dat Spetzn-aaaaaazzzz...

NeonPhoenix wrote:No matter how you slice it though, the Spetz is a very powerful profile! for such lil point cost and SWC... it's crazy, not sure what CB was going for... as someone may already have pointed out, why oh why make a 'sniper' model when everyone will roll with the HMG for only 4 points more.

A lot of people hope that HMGs get slightly debuffed in 3rd. Like maybe a lower B value or an extended lower-accuracy short range (+0 out to 12" instead of 8", or even a -3 at short range). That would make snipers more useful and the longer-range game more interesting. Snipers and MLs -should- be more accuracy than HMGs at long range, if you're trying to simulate reality.

Even the reality of...The Future?!?

All kidding aside, I don't think HMGs should be less accurate in the short range band!

Long range - sure!

I can agree with that. I definitely enjoy how violent HMG's are, and it's the first time I've played a game where the HMG's feel as deadly as they should be...

...I'm looking at you every first person shooter ever.

But dat range is rough. I do like Snipers though... they feel adequately dangerous, and the exceptional range makes them even more worthwhile in some cases.

I'm thinking Spetz with Boarding Shotguns are going to be awesome though. But I have a bias for Boarding Shotguns.

...and Sptifires.

If anything weapons that are 'quick draw' or generally better up close should get a bonus, more than other things having a penalty.

Of course then we could talk about reducing burst in exchange for more accuracy but that sounds like a can of worms

Yeah, I knew about the Lvl 2 Marksman not negating cover ARM bonus.

But, ignoring cover to hit with your Shock ammo AP boarding shotgun is great. You have to hit your target in the first place in order to do damage, and negating that -3BS for cover will certainly help.

I've heard it bandied about on the forums that CB is going to be doing some weapon balancing in the new rulebook.
Shotguns for sure are getting come range changes. Maybe they're going to be doing some tinkering with HMG's and Snipers also?
Range band changes, accuracy changes, maybe rule changes?
I'd love to see a sniper rule where if they only fire one shot in the active turn while camo, it doesn't reveal their position. I mean, that's what camoflaged snipers do, by definition! They hide, and take single shots to not give their position away!

The Spetsnaz being CC20 feels kind of... fluff breaking? Something about it just doesn't feel right.

No, they're supposed to be some uber bad asses in CQB fighting per their fluff posted recently.
I don't think I'd give them a 20 though. Maybe an 18.
It must go along with their "stupid crazy do anything approach to kill you" mentality.

Yeah, but that's the same as the fluff posted for loads of units... none of who have CC20. CC17-19 is elite enough (the number that elite CC troops of the CC faction have)

CC20 is unique character level. Even though if it's not as effective thanks to lower MA skill and worse CC weapon, it still feels wrong.

I get ya. No idea why CB did that. Maybe for upcoming rules changes?