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Some stuff may come out, problem is the seminar kept bouncing between what is allowed and what isnt, I didnt have a note pad to write what can be said and what cant. Although Bostria did explain some stuff about suppression fire outside of the seminar. Apparently its no longer those alley way tokens but a state the model goes in. So 180* but you loose accuracy and range from it. Certain weapons would not do it such as snipers as they would rather go for precision.

 Alkasyn wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
Now, we just need 19 more and some really big d20's

On a side note, the base is a little small, looks more like one of mantic's integrated 15mm bases Still pretty darn neat though.

Nope. Tabitha is an enormous person, like 2 meters tall... at least while wearing that bolt's helmet. A much improved cosplay. I note she has a combi-rifle this time.
Spoilered the image

Spoiler:

What is this? The Haqq is strong in this one. Tuareg sniper?

The folder name says "Govad" which was my guess as well based on their equipment anyway.

I'm impressed that you can read that. Thanks. Looking at the image next to it, that image looks like the concept art for the Govad. All Haqq news is good news

The Muyib box of four is four distinct bodies, but I suspect that is because they just bundled a couple of blisters together.

Sworn to secrecy? Well, that's just silly. PM us all with the juicy details then.

Heres hoping we get a BoW infinity week this week.

I feel the deja vu...

Not allowed to say?

Er, why exactly?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Heres hoping we get a BoW infinity week this week.

I feel the deja vu...

It's being recorded this coming week, to be broadcast in October.

Wow, you mean CB had everyone sign a NDA. If not your really just being greedy not going the info.

They likely were simply asked not to share it and at best made to pinky promise.

What about sharing what you're allowed to, guys?

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Muyib box of four is four distinct bodies, but I suspect that is because they just bundled a couple of blisters together.

Two and a half, to be precise. They were originally 2 blisters of 2, with 1 repeated in the Bahram starter. When the HRL got released, they bundled the HRL with the 3 from blisters not in the Bahram starter to make a link box of 4 that expands on the starter. So they don't really warrant a mention when discussing link box design since they were never designed as a 4 model link box.

Kaysim Beg's boxed set is two minis?


Would this happen to be Kaysim mounted and dismounted?

Or will it be like Kisaragi's boxed set where Kaysim would come with another Kum biker?

They said there would be a female Kum, and I can't see them doing 2 boxes of 2 standard Kum like the old boxes. So I'd assume he'll be paired with the female rider.

Though a box with a dismounted version would be cool, but so far we've only gotten it for one biker.

 -Loki- wrote:
They said there would be a female Kum, and I can't see them doing 2 boxes of 2 standard Kum like the old boxes. So I'd assume he'll be paired with the female rider.

Though a box with a dismounted version would be cool, but so far we've only gotten it for one biker.

And that biker hasn't been released yet. We have yet to see what sort of packaging Yojimbo will get. Then again, Yojimbo being dismounted supposedly matters for his profile. We have yet to see is Kaysim's profile is relevant when dismounted. Considering he's the Kum Rider leader, that seems unlikely.

I really hope the female rider won't end up being Butt Girl v2.0

 Absolutionis wrote:
Kaysim Beg's boxed set is two minis?

My heart says two Beg's.

Also this picture looks like a different sculpt due to the arm positioning.

That pose looks incredibly awkward for a mounted model, so I guess we're getting a dismounted Beg. Which also means a second 2 model box with 2 more Kum riders since we don't have Kum girl yet. Which is pretty awesome.

Mothman wrote:
Some stuff may come out, problem is the seminar kept bouncing between what is allowed and what isnt, I didnt have a note pad to write what can be said and what cant. Although Bostria did explain some stuff about suppression fire outside of the seminar. Apparently its no longer those alley way tokens but a state the model goes in. So 180* but you loose accuracy and range from it. Certain weapons would not do it such as snipers as they would rather go for precision.

I like this. If the penalty on accuracy isn't too much in 16-24" it should be nice option that will see frequent use. The cost of total reaction models should be reduced by few points, I don't suppose he mentioned how it's going to work with 360° visors?

 -Loki- wrote:
That pose looks incredibly awkward for a mounted model, so I guess we're getting a dismounted Beg. Which also means a second 2 model box with 2 more Kum riders since we don't have Kum girl yet. Which is pretty awesome.

It's pretty much certain that Kasym is both mounted and dismounted:



We will definitely get a biker girl, or two, the re-designed bikes have sold very well, it seems.

I'm now incredibly excited about his release and the potential for 2 more bikers. With alt-Penny, that'll give me 6 Kum riders.

Now I want to figure out how to fit 5 plus Beg in some kind of list and still have it be effective.

Kum are cheap arent they? So it can't be that hard

Also, irregular. No use fitting three of those each in two command groups - not effective. Also, even cheap troops add up once you take six of which one is a (more expensive) character

Yeah but couldn't you just put them in their own command group, if they're irregular anyway.

The problem I've found with just throwing irregulars into their own group is you often find yourself in situations where you want just one or two more orders to accomplish something and they die beforehand.

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the US Ariadna stuff is looking good, and its finally nice to see some more stuff for them.

When I run Kum Bikers I typically put 2-4 of them in a second Combat Group with a 2-3 of Naffatun - that way you've got a few Regular Orders to make use of the Bikers' Dogged skill.

Warcor:

Also, who's to say that the Kum bikes won't change in price?

 -Loki- wrote:
The problem I've found with just throwing irregulars into their own group is you often find yourself in situations where you want just one or two more orders to accomplish something and they die beforehand.

Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about giving them some extra orders, I was thinking purely about minimising the effect Irregular might have on your main order pool. Oopsie.

Couldnt they give Kasym inspiring leadership? would that work

Hi all, I popped along to the Wayland seminar on Sunday, and there were a few details that Carlos asked us not to share – scout's honour! Out of politeness, I won't share those details. Also, as a new player (just picked up Icestorm), I didn't really understand a lot of the info, I'm afraid. That said, a few snippets that might mean more to you guys than me:

* The 3rd edition rulebook will be split in two ~200pp books; one the rules (softback), and one the background (hardback). The rules have been in flux so that they get as much possible playtesting and feedback before they're printed; they sorted the background book first.
* Pardiso and er... the other campaign book (Human Sphere?) will remain playable. The main rulebook will not contain rules for the aliens introduced in Paradiso; you'll have to buy that book to get them. However, everything will be free online – and the online info will be the 'go-to' ruleset: CB feel that it's best to keep updates nimble, and always refer to the online info as the most up-to-date and correct. They take precedence over the printed books.
* The fonts and design will be tightened up – they don't like the fact the cover has three different typefaces.
* [WHOOPS – SECRETS REDACTED]
* There's a new pistol type (Breaker) that attacks your BTS(?) rather than armour.
* The change in HMG effectiveness at short range (negative modifiers) was, in part, added to encourage TAGs to stay in mid-field in support, rather than stomping over to the other player's deployment zone and hosing things down.
* Hackers are going to be the paper to TAGs' rock; they'll be part of the reason TAGs want to stay in mid-field.
* Close combat is being emphasised. There's a lot of positive modififers, and close combat stats are generally increasing. If the modifiers take things over 20, it increases the critical change (e.g. if you're modified to needing 23 or less, anything over 17 becomes critical).
* Carlos specifically mentioned that there was a change from the GenCon rumours on martial arts. An opponent's ARO shooting triggered when you charge will be affected by the negative modifiers given by martial arts. This is a change that took place within the last week.
* The Aleph robots were hand-sculpted, and Carlos would like to see them resculpted digitally. However, the box is so popular it's low priority.

Apologies for the vagueness; as I mention I didn't really understand a lot of the crunchy stuff!

On more general notes, there was a wonderful talk through the art commissioning and refining process (working in art publishing myself, it was of particular interest). Carlos is a fun speaker; quite willing to get carried away with whooshing noises and getting into the poses of miniatures and artworks to help explain what he was after. If there's a second artbook, it will likely be accompanied by more big prints, because CB got great feedback about the prints that shipped with the first artbook. The art direction is under consideration – Carlos seems to favour a more stylised comic-book feel, and steering away from the more realistic poses and proportions. This won't affect the models; which will remain 'true scale'; it'll just mean there's more Anime-esque/comic style art in the books.

Carlos was kind enough to take my friends and I through our first games, and was great to chat with. He made a couple of remarks that the forums will doubtless have loads of conflicting info following the weekend – 25in superjumps and robo-ducks were two things he threw in as jokes. So you heard it here first!

Thanks for the round-up, Apologist, hope you'll stick with the game!

My pleasure – just sorry I'm not more familiar with the game so I could be more specific!