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Well assuming it's going tracked it's not unreasonable as Royal Mail is going to charge her £8.80 to ship a blister packed figure

(untracked is a different matter as that would only be £3.80)

 Sangarn wrote:

 Riquende wrote:


Are they the last of the existing TAGs to be released? Don't really know much about the model ranges outside of PanO.

Stingray are pano

Yes, I know they are, I was asking after anything not PanO.

I like the changes to CC, especially for models that are very powerful in CC. Increasing your Critical chance by the amount you exceed 20 by will make models in excess of 20 much more potent. Adding more of a sense of danger to CC, and more finality to being in CC with someone good should make it a more viable option when you're in the right position.

But I am concerned about the MA negative modifiers affecting shots in ARO. I don't want to see Infinity become yet another game where banzai charging with a sword is preferable to just using a gun, no matter how lethal they are with the sword.

edit - redacted i guess?

September releases on the last day of September lol

Guess december is the earliest for 3rd edition then since it's not listed in the Oct/Nov releases :(

 ckig wrote:
September releases on the last day of September lol

That is normal operations for Corvus Belli, ckig.

When you see "X release", it means it is the end of the month and will become available next month.

another view:

Wow. Oldschool 2nd edition 40k flying base.

Not overly sold on them. I might just use Go Go and rebase her camera bot on another base.

Must have missed some pages. Who are these guys?

 Sangarn wrote:
another view:

Is that the standard one or the limited one?

 -Loki- wrote:
I like the changes to CC, especially for models that are very powerful in CC. Increasing your Critical chance by the amount you exceed 20 by will make models in excess of 20 much more potent. Adding more of a sense of danger to CC, and more finality to being in CC with someone good should make it a more viable option when you're in the right position.

Crits already increased in those odds in 2nd edition, so if you had CC23 you'd crit on a 17+. What's changed is that the amount over 20 is now added to the die roll - for example if you had CC23 and a +3 modifier you'd be adding 6 to the die roll and be unable to score less than 7!

 -Loki- wrote:
But I am concerned about the MA negative modifiers affecting shots in ARO. I don't want to see Infinity become yet another game where banzai charging with a sword is preferable to just using a gun, no matter how lethal they are with the sword.

At the moment it's better to shoot even if you're in charge range and are supposedly a close combat specialist.

 plastictrees wrote:
Must have missed some pages. Who are these guys?

WARCOR models

 IJW wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I like the changes to CC, especially for models that are very powerful in CC. Increasing your Critical chance by the amount you exceed 20 by will make models in excess of 20 much more potent. Adding more of a sense of danger to CC, and more finality to being in CC with someone good should make it a more viable option when you're in the right position.

Crits already increased in those odds in 2nd edition, so if you had CC23 you'd crit on a 17+. What's changed is that the amount over 20 is now added to the die roll - for example if you had CC23 and a +3 modifier you'd be adding 6 to the die roll and be unable to score less than 7!

 -Loki- wrote:
But I am concerned about the MA negative modifiers affecting shots in ARO. I don't want to see Infinity become yet another game where banzai charging with a sword is preferable to just using a gun, no matter how lethal they are with the sword.

At the moment it's better to shoot even if you're in charge range and are supposedly a close combat specialist.

I hope thats something they fix to make CC worth while. Doesnt have to make CC the best strategy just need to make it worth while when you are in range to do so.

From what we've heard so far, once a CC specialist gets into 4" then they're better off charging than shooting.

I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it. That's what Impetuous is meant to represent - someone not quite that sane who will run into a gun unless actively restrained. Being good at grappling someone to the ground shouldn't make a lick of difference when you're in the process of getting there.

I do like CC being more powerful though. if some martial arts expert or hulking, regenerating super soldier in powered armour gets close enough to hit you with their electrified sword, you deserve to go down.

 BrookM wrote:

Another picture of my Infinity Cosplay at WaylandGames with my baby Vera For all those asking when and where you can buy the miniature - I'll be putting them on my store later today! STAY TUNED!

The base is a nice touch.

As for the mini, I could see myself picking it up when funds are there to spare again. /sigh...

Dyou think that warcor might make a good USAriadna Foxtrot? Or is that just me...

 -Loki- wrote:
I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it. That's what Impetuous is meant to represent - someone not quite that sane who will run into a gun unless actively restrained. Being good at grappling someone to the ground shouldn't make a lick of difference when you're in the process of getting there.

I do like CC being more powerful though. if some martial arts expert or hulking, regenerating super soldier in powered armour gets close enough to hit you with their electrified sword, you deserve to go down.

Really if your not coming in from behind, camoed or blitzing from around a blind corner, the guy has already used atleast 1 ARO to shoot you already. Otherwise if they get close like they should the guy will not be pointing the gun his chest.

 -Loki- wrote:
I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it. That's what Impetuous is meant to represent - someone not quite that sane who will run into a gun unless actively restrained. Being good at grappling someone to the ground shouldn't make a lick of difference when you're in the process of getting there.

I do like CC being more powerful though. if some martial arts expert or hulking, regenerating super soldier in powered armour gets close enough to hit you with their electrified sword, you deserve to go down.

Aren't there hundreds of youtube videos demonstrating how knives are as deadly as guns within 5 or 10 steps or something like that?

Henshini wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it. That's what Impetuous is meant to represent - someone not quite that sane who will run into a gun unless actively restrained. Being good at grappling someone to the ground shouldn't make a lick of difference when you're in the process of getting there.

I do like CC being more powerful though. if some martial arts expert or hulking, regenerating super soldier in powered armour gets close enough to hit you with their electrified sword, you deserve to go down.

Aren't there hundreds of youtube videos demonstrating how knives are as deadly as guns within 5 or 10 steps or something like that?

That's great. Add a knife throwing ability. Why should only martial arts experts be able to throw it?

Henshini wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it. That's what Impetuous is meant to represent - someone not quite that sane who will run into a gun unless actively restrained. Being good at grappling someone to the ground shouldn't make a lick of difference when you're in the process of getting there.

I do like CC being more powerful though. if some martial arts expert or hulking, regenerating super soldier in powered armour gets close enough to hit you with their electrified sword, you deserve to go down.

Aren't there hundreds of youtube videos demonstrating how knives are as deadly as guns within 5 or 10 steps or something like that?

Yeah there are. Though its worth keeping in mind that most of those videos are for police officers with holstered weapons.

I didn't exactly want to start a huge debate of this, particularly in the news thread and annoy Alpharius. The games changing editions, and with it some gameplay. Not everyone is going to like every change.

So far, this is a small change that I don't agree with. It's not something that's going to affect me much (I tend to be careful enough to not let CC monsters get that close), I just enjoyed how difficult it was to get to CC after playing 40k for 20 years. Seeing the pendulum swing back that way just a little is a bit unsettling.

I think it should be hard to get into but have a reward for those with high CQC if you can get into range. You don't the balance to shift to far towards CQC being king but its nice to have a high CC unit actually having a reason to try for CQC instead of only shooting.

Thats my take as a new player anyway.

 carlos13th wrote:
I think it should be hard to get into but have a reward for those with high CQC if you can get into range. You don't the balance to shift to far towards CQC being king but its nice to have a high CC unit actually having a reason to try for CQC instead of only shooting.

Thats my take as a new player anyway.

Exactly. That's why I do like the additional bonus of your excess CC points above 20 being a bonus to your roll (thanks for the correction IJW). That will help units with a high CC get a critical. Add to that the 'critical band' for being above CC20 and the modifiers MA can stack on, and CC has become a lot more lethal, especially if you are above 20 CC.

That means there will be less standing around poking each other and waiting for someone to trip and fall on a knife as, barring some terrible rolling, a CC monster will walk in and simply dominate the other, giving CC a short, brutal lifespan, That's good. That's what CC needs, IMO. It needs to have a quick turnaround and benefit people who are good at it.

 -Loki- wrote:
I'm still not a fan. When there's a gun pointing at your chest, the last thing any sane person would want to do it run at it.

To be fair, anime logic says the guy with the gun is screwed.

 Sangarn wrote:
another view:

Dammit Giraldez, how did you paint digicam on such a small surface!? That man can't be human.

and dammit, I think I need a Warcor. Though, in the future, I'd like to see one posed as if actually reporting rather than running from gunfire.

That cam is impressive.

If I pick up the War Cor though I wont put them in camo. Would prefer him to be obviously Civilian and I am not sure the Camo shows that.

ImAGeek wrote:
Dyou think that warcor might make a good USAriadna Foxtrot? Or is that just me...

Having just found the Foxtrot dude I bought a few years back, I was thinking the exact same thing They should look awesome together!

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Sangarn wrote:
another view:

Is that the standard one or the limited one?

Warcor limited one.

I must have missed it, how do you get said miniature?

Also I don't think I would like having a dude with a flying camera floating around taking footage of a battle, it's like painting a big "hey, we're over here" banner and hoisting it above your position...

Still an awesome miniature though!

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I must have missed it, how do you get said miniature?

You need to be a member of the Warcor program. Basically CB's version of GW outriders, Wyrd henchmen and PP press gangers.