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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 01:27:55
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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All of them are sneaky and underhanded compared to the Blood God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 01:51:30
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Nimble Pistolier
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Each of the Chaos gods are supposed to offer some sort of temptation for morals, as they are a manifestation of the darker side of the soul. Let's take a closer look:
Tzeentch: Embodies hidden desire, plotting and secrets. Mortals seek him out because he offers to them power through knowledge, but at a terrible cost. Definitely a strong temptation (who hasn't ever wanted to know the future?) And that in the knowing of 'what shouldn't be known', you become warped and changed. It's poetic
Nurgle: Embodiment of death and decay. The fear of death is one of the most common fears universally, so Nurgle's corrupted offer of 'life' through disease is devilishly warped. Temptation for eternal 'life' works well, and you could imagine the feeling of shame that someone would feel in being so cowardly that they would accept to be turned into some hideous monstrosity rather than have the courage to face death. Amazingly good motive.
Slaneesh: Slaneesh gets such a bad wrap, mostly due to the crappy PG-13 bubble wrap GW places it into in order to sell stuff to kiddies. And the terribad models. And the misconception that its all about boobies. What a lot of people here are failing to do is to look *past* the censorship and the dumb, and look at the core of the entity. Compare the other 3 greater Chaos gods...Tzeentch is a warped alien being, Nurgle is a bloated, hideous monster, Khorne a bloody-thirsty murderer...most sane people would RECOIL from those things (gore, insanity, disease).
*gets onto my  *
But Slaneesh...now that's an entity that has appeal to a lot of people. Lust, passion, perfection, excess. Look at your average rap music video these days and what do you see? Songs that 'worship' hot women, loads of cash, hotted up cars, drugs and alcohol everywhere...'worshiping' the *idea* of Slaneesh. People love to fantasise about living an excessive luxurious life, and would often do *anything* to get it.
Another point to note is the idea of slowly corrupting someone to the cult of Slaneesh. Look at the Eldar/High Elves, it started off fairly innocent, the Cult of Pleasure was just about having a good time. Nothing wrong with that, right? But 'too much of a good thing can be bad for you' becomes the reason why after awhile, the drugs or sex or art or food (etc) loses its ability to give you the kick, and so you become addicted to something stronger. Like a junkie looking for the next high, you would get more desperate for more 'pure' pleasure. You'd do *anything* for that high you've been chasing and then the idea of Slaneesh (which at first would have had you running at the sight of) slowly becomes a 'rationale' choice.
*That* is the reason why Slaneesh is by far the most evil, warped and terrifying of the four. That slow slide from a sane and normal revulsion of what Slaneesh is...to a desperate bargain, a pact with it to satisfy that addiction.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTD1NDNFIg Him from PPG, totally how I imagine Slaneesh sounding  )
When you compare these three gods, and their subtle way of corrupting people with their various temptations, Khorne sadly falls flat. He lacks any sort of subtlety or appeal to worship him. He is quite *obviously* evil, and so no sane person would ever *want* to follow him. He offers no 'temptation', no 'reward' to mortals. KILL KILL KILL really is the domain of people who are *already* insane, not completely normal people who are tempted into worshiping Chaos. So, to be honest, Khorne should have the least amount of followers (luckily for us, orcs can't join Chaos otherwise every single one of them would be a Khornite  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 02:01:33
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Zweischneid wrote:Infections, pus and parasites do not numb you to pain. Quite the opposite infact.. if you ever happen to have an infection, inflammation or festering wound, try poking the infected part and than a healthy part for comparison.
Toughness and/or FnP would be much more appropriate on Noise Marines (numbed to all sensations but the most extreme) or, most likely, Rubic Marines (cause.. literally.. they do not feel pain).
And even if you can conceive of an explanation of why followers of Nurgle become tougher and/or more resilient, it still isn't thematic. If you wanna bring disease, infection and rot to the gaming table, effects one should look for are poisoned weapons (infection), sapping/ de-buffing of strength and/or initiative (aura-effects or again weapons), reduction of armour saves (rot & corrosion) or something along those lines.
As it is, Nurgle an all its forms and incarnations is pretty Fubar.
Nurgle has made a disease that decays your body but numbs pain is what it is. You are so rotten your nerve senses are completely gone and decayed so that is why they can't feel pain. Imo Nurgle is the best god because he is actually open and friendly, his diseases are just "little gifts" and anyways if he blesses you with one you won't be able to feel it. Also Nurgle is the middle man, not overly strong or violent like khorne, or twisted and weird like slaanesh, or scheming like Tzeench. So he's not op, just a fun guy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 12:19:00
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Khorne for one reason: just played an apoc game and 1 of the 3 Angraths rolled an 18 inch charge on turn 1 to assault and destroyed our Emperor Titan in one go...maybe next time i shouldn't let my opponent use my dice...since they already seem to hate me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 10:04:20
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Hallowed Canoness
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Slaneesh for weak sauce execution and for the numerous annoying 15 year old players who are obsessed with the sexual aspect of excess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 10:07:49
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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To me Slaanesh is just an donkey-cave..
I feel that Khorne's anger is kind of endearing, Tzeenetch is quite cool in how mystical he is. My favourite is Nurgle by far,only the coolest guy is called "Papa" by his followers, and only a total dude could just have a little chuckle after one of his kids screws up his most important work ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 11:07:22
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Slaanesh because he/she/it/that/those just doesn't ring right with me for obvious reasons.
But I love Slaan's fiction, them comics are gold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 13:07:43
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Slaanesh, i just cant like the lore and what he has to offer. Like with the other gods i feel I'm at least super smart, a blood thirsty killer, our immune to pain and sickness. But to be a slave to sensation just doesn't seem all that cool. Its like being addicted to crack no one thinks a crack head is cool!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 13:29:49
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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You just wait a few years.
Khorne is my least favourite. The whole "skullz 4 the skullz skullz" is getting a bit old.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 17:55:52
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Tzeentch, mainly because it's the hardest to spell...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 21:16:03
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Happy Imperial Citizen
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Definitely Nurgle, because not only are they impossible to pull of objectives, but it gives people an excuses to buy sticks of green plop them on bases and say that they are "conversions"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 23:40:35
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Cybronx wrote:I wouldn't make the poll allow multiple answers if you want to know what Chaos god is hated the most, but I'd have to say Khorne.
Violence is fun and all, but going on and on about SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE gets old after a while. Plus I'm just not a fan of red.
Don't forget BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD its more the players than the models/rules
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 18:06:58
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd Say that i hate Khorne the most and then followed bu Nurgle cause almost every single 40k/fantasy chaos player that i have meet has gone with either one of those two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/02 03:11:25
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Crazed Savage Orc
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The You Tube spoof from the movie "Downfall" regarding the Blood God says it all on my thoughts on Slannesh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/03 01:52:54
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Going with Khorne. The whole insane frothing killing machine thing is overdone.
I love Tzeentch and Slaanesh, and no one can hate Grandpappy Nurgle, he's just a big, cuddly (albeit pustulent and highly contagious) teddy bear, who loves his creations dearly as a god should... Automatically Appended Next Post: Plus Khorne is just an excuse for GW to waste their monthly skull quota on a single batch of minis...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/12 19:43:46
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
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Tzeentch is my favorite god and as such all my choas armies are either for Tzeentch or Undivided. So as you could probably tell the god I hate the most is Nurgle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 13:04:07
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Not a big fan of tzeentch. Spending all day manipulating makes me think they belong in an alpha legion fluff, where tzeentch is.....ALPHARIUS!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 13:09:46
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Sacrifice to the Dark Gods
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But, I don't hate any of them. I love them each in their individual way. Now if you had asked or my favorite I would have straight up told you Slaanesh, but you didn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 00:51:28
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Fighter Ace
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Nurgle or Slaanesh
Nurgle and slaanesh marines are cool, but the demons suck for both, with imo nurgle being slightly worse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 16:17:08
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Slaanesh is the chaos god of Cenobites, Slaanesh is the chaos god of pride and self serving excess, if Lucifer followed a chaos god, he'd serve Slaanesh. It's only the 'aimed at the kiddies now' thing that means Slaanesh gets such a bad rap and comes a poor 4th place in mini updates and 'we're really not sure what to do with this one'. I remember talking with a GW store manager who said that he personally loved Slaanesh's background but that trying to explain what sHe represented to little Timmy, with little Timmy's mum stood beside him in the store was very uncomfortable and difficult. To me, that's part of the reason Slaanesh is my absolute favorite chaos god. sHe represents the real dark side. I can resist everything but temptation...
Khorne is an overly popular one trick pony, Chaos-lite. Rawr Imma Monsta and I'm RED!!! SKULLZ, THRONES ETC!!! ...wow, whatever son.
Tzeentch has some potential, somewhat ruined by spam of his units in the game due to exceptional rules for years in WHFB (ward saves, chaos lords also being chaos sorcerers back in the day). Still, giant skeksies for greater daemons and lesser daemons with massive jazz hands is good for a laugh.
Nurgle I quite like for his sense of humor and showbiz, but again, I see so many of his armies poorly converted and covered in greenstuff marked with a toothpick, oh and he gets way too much forgeworld time and attention.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 07:03:27
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Tzeentch, he's a dick. And his name is the hardest for me to say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/19 02:19:48
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Guardsmen Bob wrote:Tzeentch, he's a dick. And his name is the hardest for me to say.
This. I can't face any unit of Flamer Daemons without picturing a smug look on his face. He probably stole my Yo-Yo when I was younger too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/19 04:54:11
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I hate all Xenos and Heretics with the same ardent fervor! Death to the Unfaithful, Death to the Untrue. Only in Faith is there power.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/11 10:52:21
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
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Nurgle definitly. The models and the aesthetic are just awful, and the fact that he is the standout go-to guy for WAAC/TFG mouthbreathers is just icing on the cake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 15:15:29
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kinda hate all of them but to vote fair Nurgle, always hated that blob of a god more than the others he is fugly fat and only promises disease with no pain but in the end your just as fugley as him. Someone really should just shoot him with antibiotics and be done with him
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 11:20:44
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Mindless Servitor
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I think Khorne's just annoying, especially since they now gave him a good shooting weapon in the form of the chariot. Why is that for Khorne?
Though in 40K terms I think it's probably Nurgle, because the stuff just doesn't go away and when shooting into it you feel like you're hacking awa at a cliff-face and then the cliff (very slowly and purposefully) falls on you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/22 08:23:22
Subject: Re:what chaos god do you hate the most
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Khorne. Ohhhhh Khorne.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 04:35:49
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I hate Khorn, because as a Slaanesh player, my codex says I do
and I agree with iLLiTHiD. I think the treatment of Slaanesh to be the "Ohh Look bOObs!" god is mainly because GW was either lazy or could not think of a better idea. Then after they decided "boobs are worse than violence", rather than introducing models and themes that were already included into Slaanesh's fluff, they just made ugly half boobs.
If you have ever read the fluff for Slaanesh he embodies all 7 deadly sins.
1: LUST - Yeah this one is obvious... again boobs... and the one that too many people get stuck on. There are many forms of lust however like the lust for power. Arcturus Mengsk from the Starcraft universe fits this bill perfectly... "I will rule this sector or see it burned to the ground around me" Yeah, welcome to the followers of Slaanesh Arcturus.
2: GLUTTONY - yep, papa nurgle is not the only one with obese FUGLY followers. Gluttony is the over-indulgence and over- consumption of anything to the point of waste. Gluttony as a sin can also be defined as Selfishness. Someone who over-indulges for personal gain over the benefit of others. Anyone who has ever had co-workers knows someone like this. A person who will take all the credit for something that was achieved by many people working together.
3: GREED - Also follows the line of the selfish individual but greed applies mostly to material possessions. It is an excessive desire to possess more than you need. Thror of house Durin (the dwarf king) from JRR Tolkien's "The Hobbit" is easily someone who falls into this catagory. His greed was the downfall of his people after all.
4:SLOTH - often defined as lazy, which can possibly lead to slaanesh, a better way of seeing slaanesh's temptation threw sloth is by the definition "evil exists when good men fail to act". Garviel Loken from the Horus Heresy novels is an example of this. Threw the first books of that series he witnesses many things that he feels are not right, yet never acts... or rather does not act enough. It is only after the "evil" has shown itself that he acts against it. Loken in the books however is not swayed to join chaos. But many of the ones who did not act and eventually joined the side of Horus could be said to have been compelled by Sloth.
5:WRATH - While many would argue this is purely the dominion of Khorne, Wrath is also a part of Slaanesh. Want for revenge, holding onto grudges, blind hatred (im looking at you sisters of battle) all fall into the realm of Slaanesh and are forms of Wrath. Again returning to the Starcraft universe, Sarah Kerrigan (post SC2 WoL) is a prime example. "The killing will stop when Mengsk is dead"... I think I may have found my new Daemon Princess
6:ENVY - Jealous of something be it personal trait, material wealth, status, ability and so on but also the desire to possess and covent whatever the thing is. Once again turning to JRR Tolkien, Golum is basically the embodiment of Envy. It is a desire that was forced upon him by the ring but he will do ANYTHING just to have it.
7: PRIDE - The TRUE falling of the Emperors Children happened not threw sex, orgies, drugs, and rock and roll. It happened entirely threw Pride. They strove to be the best. They refused to be out done. they would always go one more step than anyone else to prove they were the best. Their pride ruled their every way of life, and eventually they went one step too far. But after taking that one step to far they could not turn back. That would be admitting they were wrong. And they were the Emperors Children! they were the best! and they were never wrong!
Well I did not really mean to go on that long about this. But I hope all you people who say "I hate slaanesh, his story is dumb" may re-consider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 13:14:18
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Khorne.
Boooooooooooooooooring.
Come on, Papa Nurgle at least is caring towards his worshippers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 00:01:08
Subject: what chaos god do you hate the most
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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I picked Nurgle just because it's hard to take him seriously. I mean don't get me wrong, he's hardcore, but he just doesnt really catch me the way the other chaos gods do.
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