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I liked Farscape, Stargate and Firefly most and was a fan of the new Battlestar. But when younger, I very much liked Star Wars (the original three and parts of the prequel trilogy.)
I did not bother with the two later ones in the new trilogy.
Although I never liked Star Trek so much when I was younger, I recently decided to give it a go; I quite liked parts of Enterprise and some of TNG; I am currently watching DS9. I did not like the Discovery one apart from the bits it turns into the Captain Pike show; which makes me hopeful for the new series they're doing with him. The Picard show was angsty and dull - which is when I think most (not all perhaps) sci fi is at it's weakest - when it takes itself too seriously. Farscape was too off-the-chain to do this. Stargate's best villains were gold-clad cartoon characters, and so on.

   
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ST:TOS and DS9 and the episodes 4,5,6 are the best of both.

ST:NG is ok, but Picard gets overly rules lawyery vs. Kirk and Sisko's directness. Voyager, Enterprise, and Picard are all worthless. With neither the SCIFI story telling of the initial series, or the seasonal deep dives into character of DS9. They are indistinguishable from the many, many star trek clones over the years.

Star Wars has it's own charm, but Lucas screwed up the prequels with his hamfisted directing and the Disney sequels were written without a plan and by people who hated starwars fans. They are big budget busts. Compared to The Mandelorian, which understood the material and never tried to tell fans that their favorite characters were losers, instead trying to show what is cool about various characters and not shoving in diverse and multi-ethnic cardboard cutouts in lieu of actual writing and character development. Even for minor characters like Bill Barr's, there is care.

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Trek. At it's best there no contest. A show dedicated to dealing with serious issues of human nature, society, politics, philosophy, etc.

Star wars is good space wizards with blue laser swords vs evil space wizards with red laser swords.

I'm talking classic trek, not the abrams abominations or the disco/piccard travesties.

The best of star wars were some of the novels, the heir to the empire series was the best of it i've ever seen, i heard the thrawn novels were good too.



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Eastern US

I like both.

Why not both?

Why not Zoidberg?
   
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Seneca Nation of Indians

Dude, Necro much?


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Might want to be more clear...

Lucas Star wars is better than Star Trek in all forms,

Rodenberry Star Trek is better than Post Rogue 1 Star Wars (Under Kennedy's Watch) except Mandalorian.

Kurtzman Star Trek and Kennedy Star Wars are kind of equal on the woke trash score.
   
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I'll Be Back




The Netherlands

Star Wars.

IMO Star Wars is more a fantasy story set in space, whereas Star Trek leans a more towards the real scifi genre.
Therefor i don't think it's a fair comparison?

I've never really got into Star Trek, tried to watch TNG a few times but it never really pulled me into the series (crazy Q guy and weird settings).



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washington state USA

Babylon 5.....

Many years ago when H.B.M.C. and i were on the spacebattles forums we talked endlessly about scfi and fantasy stuff and the "big 3" universes at the time were Star Wars, Star Trek and Babylon 5.

Wars had the epic universe, trek had the rabid fans and technobabble and B5 had the story arc.

At that time there was only the original 3 movies and EU books for SW, there was only TOS/movies and DS9 was just gettign started for Trek and B5 had the TV series.

This was long before Disney destroyed SW, ST got destroyed by STD and the general influx of the anti-fan started ruining all the other fandoms.

So when you break it down in the ranking for me

Babylon 5 edges out the other two for a bit more focus on harder scifi physics, a strong focus on character development, soft sciences and the big story arc.

Star wars comes in a close second followed by Star Trek mostly coming from the Kirk era movies 2 & 6 being the high points of the franchise. with some fond memories of TNG episodes.

The only thing that has come close for me in the recent past is the expanse, while i enjoyed farscape, SG1 and the reboot of BSG they are not as high on my list.





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 Phyrexius wrote:
whereas Star Trek leans a more towards the real scifi genre


Lol no. Throwing some technobabble nonsense in to "explain" the magic doesn't make it scifi, just like "explaining" the force with midichlorines or whatever doesn't make Star Wars "real scifi".
   
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Reject terrible sci fi embrace Spaceballs.
   
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Aecus Decimus wrote:
 Phyrexius wrote:
whereas Star Trek leans a more towards the real scifi genre


Lol no. Throwing some technobabble nonsense in to "explain" the magic doesn't make it scifi, just like "explaining" the force with midichlorines or whatever doesn't make Star Wars "real scifi".


I agree. Star Trek is terrible science fiction.

TOS works great as an allegory for modern (at the time) social issues and an idealized version of humanity, but the actual science fiction elements are awful and never improve with the following series. I think Star Trek has actually been a net negative for mainstream science fiction because it codified "space science fiction" tropes to the point where nearly every mainstream series copies core elements like having species exist only as a 'Planet of Hats', technobabble, and an emphasis on social allegory over the impact of technological developments. Even shows with much harder sci-fi elements like The Expanse aren't 'pure' science fiction, but more akin to space operas.

Star Wars is even worse science fiction, but I don't think it should be considered scifi at all so that point is moot.

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Dublin, Ireland

I was always much more of a SW fan than a ST one. However, recent offerings have steered me in the opposite direction with SNW and Lower Decks being superior to most recent SW offerings.
   
 
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