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Honestly, I don't care for either (except for The Wrath of Khan)
   
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Star Wars should have been split between Legends and Canon.
Personally, Star Wars Legends all the way.

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It's a comparison of two completely different things.

Trek is a serious work of introspective and speculative science fiction, focusing on key issues that face societies and their development. It is a hopeful show that highlights both the successes and failures of humanity and other species as they continue to grow and develop.

Star Wars is a silly space opera involving space mages for 12 year olds, with about as much depth and character development as an episode of animaniacs.

I just don't understand how people can even compare the two.

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Always been a Trekkie. Always will be.

Don't mind some aspects of Star Wars (some of the computer games, in particular, have been awesome) - but not a big fan of the franchise.

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Both!

But both of the JJ Abrams-era trilogies for both Franchises are trash. Star Trek 1 was the best of the lot.

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Doctor Who, duh

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 Red_Five wrote:
Both!

But both of the JJ Abrams-era trilogies for both Franchises are trash. Star Trek 1 was the best of the lot.


Interesting. I love Star Trek, but I've never met a fan of the first movie before. It was a pretty intellectual film with little of the space swashbuckling the series was known for

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ELEMENTS of both, neither in their entirety.

I like both, I love neither.

OTOH, both are preferred over LOTR.

But farscape forever. May be biased, worked on that show.

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 ChargerIIC wrote:
 Red_Five wrote:
Both!

But both of the JJ Abrams-era trilogies for both Franchises are trash. Star Trek 1 was the best of the lot.


Interesting. I love Star Trek, but I've never met a fan of the first movie before. It was a pretty intellectual film with little of the space swashbuckling the series was known for


I believe he was referring to Star Trek 2009, the first reboot film. As for TMP, the original Star Trek 1, I really enjoy watching it because it is so different from most other science fiction films. There’s something compelling about an ambitious failure. It’s not my favorite Star Trek movie by far, but it is probably the one I’ve rewatched (parts of) the most.

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I personally like how cerebral ST:TMP was. It was kind of nice to see them get back to exploration and solving a problem with something OTHER than Phasers set to Castrate.

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for me it really depends what I feel like, if I want a cerebral show, trek scratches that itch, if I want a blam blam pew pew space action, SW is better

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Back in the day definitely Star Trek, but these days Star Trek is pretty awful except from the movies and Star Wars has the Mandalorian. Still a Trekkie but love both.
   
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Star Trek TNG uber alles.

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 Insectum7 wrote:
Star Trek TNG uber alles.

Agreed 100%
   
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I'll take the universe that looks like it has more going on, over the one where it's more political backstabbing and subterfuge.
Though if you ask me to choose what setting I like more for it's characters. Then I would definitely choose Star Trek TNG over much of what else I have access to.

Say what you want about Star Trek, but Juan-Luc was one of, if not, the most influential sci-fi characters of the time. Right up there with his predecessor Shatner's James T. Kirk.

The universe of Star Wars wins out by just appearing far more interesting.

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Star Wars has two good movies (the first two), the rest are just garbage. Pretty brainless as well if you're an adult. Trek has some good movies and TNG and DS9. So, Trek for me, but new Trek is just as garbage as new Star Wars.
   
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dream archipelago wrote:
Star Wars has two good movies (the first two), the rest are just garbage. Pretty brainless as well if you're an adult. Trek has some good movies and TNG and DS9. So, Trek for me, but new Trek is just as garbage as new Star Wars.


Wait- so the only good Star Wars films are A New Hope and The Holiday Special?


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for me it really depends what I feel like, if I want a cerebral show, trek scratches that itch, if I want a blam blam pew pew space action, SW is better


To me, Trek always felt like a sort of quasi-cerebral show. It purported to explore philosophical and ethical questions, but ultimately relied on oversimplification and Gene Roddenbrrry's idealism too much to actually address any of the issues it brought up. Also, the insistence that Kirk must be right all the time- even when all evidence and logic seem against him- is really detrimental to all of the story telling. It is like the universe bends to the will of Kirk.

Star Trek is the embodiment of pro-colonialism in science fiction. Every alien species that they come into contact with has a lot that they could learn from the human's western neutral culture- even seriously more advanced races like Q. When Gene Rodenberry died, some of the new writers took the chance to present a dark side to the Federation, and it became quickly obvious that Rodenberry's utopia was a dystopia all along. But it seems like most of the fans really hated that.


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2500kgm3 wrote:Who needs any of those when you can watch Babylon 5?


Lord_Vader wrote:No strong opinion, since Firefly > Both


2500kgm3 wrote:Who needs any of those when you can watch Babylon 5?


Loyalwatcher wrote:
2500kgm3 wrote:Who needs any of those when you can watch Babylon 5?


Totally agree. Star Trek and Star Wars are nice. B5 is a cut above everything else. Farscape and the new BSG got close...


This is more of my thinking these days. Both Star Wars and Star Trek were ruined by their remakes and subsequent chapters.
   
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In terms of franchises as a whole:

Star Trek generally has better writing and it undoubtedly has more consistent writing. DS9 as a storyline trumps anything Star Wars has done in live action. The best episodes of TOS and TNG are up there as well.

As a secondary part of writing, Star Trek has much better characters, particularly in DS9. Also, Star Wars places far too much emphasis on the Jedi and Sith. You could argue it's more of a heroic fantasy, but it's also questionably elitist.

Star Wars has a much better world. Both franchises do a good job of world building, but I prefer Star Wars. It's not anywhere near realistic in terms of science or politics, but it also doesn't become a slave to technobabble at times.

Star Wars has hands down better visuals across the board. I think this is Star War's greatest strength, the producers nail design like no one else.

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 odinsgrandson wrote:
dream archipelago wrote:
Star Wars has two good movies (the first two), the rest are just garbage. Pretty brainless as well if you're an adult. Trek has some good movies and TNG and DS9. So, Trek for me, but new Trek is just as garbage as new Star Wars.


Wait- so the only good Star Wars films are A New Hope and The Holiday Special?


The Holiday Special was the epitome of a TV variety show, not a film.

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