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 Mattlov wrote:
The hobby has a small but vocal following. We have a lot of message boards and forums that make it appear larger than it is.

But look at something like GenCon, the biggest gaming convention in the US. Total attendance about 70-100K depending on the year over four days.

That isn't very spectacular in terms of the population. And GenCon pulls a LOT of gamers out of their caves for 4 days.

On the whole, I'd guess less than 1% of the world population are tabletop and RPG gamers.

Well, yes and no. Granted, we are only a very small percentage of the population as a whole. On the other hand, how many acrylic knitters and model railroaders are there out there? I think our hobby is sizable, as hobbies go.

 Zinderneuf wrote:

 Mattlov wrote:
The hobby has a small but vocal following. We have a lot of message boards and forums that make it appear larger than it is.

But look at something like GenCon, the biggest gaming convention in the US. Total attendance about 70-100K depending on the year over four days.

That isn't very spectacular in terms of the population. And GenCon pulls a LOT of gamers out of their caves for 4 days.

On the whole, I'd guess less than 1% of the world population are tabletop and RPG gamers.

Well, yes and no. Granted, we are only a very small percentage of the population as a whole. On the other hand, how many acrylic knitters and model railroaders are there out there? I think our hobby is sizable, as hobbies go.

I wouldn't consider a model railroader a tabletop gamer or RPG player. A knitter has no connection to the hobby of wargaming/RPG playing. They shouldn't be included in the total of "the hobby" because they aren't part of it.

 Mattlov wrote:
I wouldn't consider a model railroader a tabletop gamer or RPG player. A knitter has no connection to the hobby of wargaming/RPG playing. They shouldn't be included in the total of "the hobby" because they aren't part of it.

I think he meant 'Compared to other hobbies (such as model railroads) there are actually a decent amount of war gamers...'

 dominiquekee wrote:
Just saw this thread, thought I'd stand up for my country, Malaysia!

There a several notable wargaming outlets peppered throughout the capital city, but they are usually small, cozy and everyone knows each other.

Over here, the following is small but very niche. It will certainly grow in future, but there is lack of awareness over here. I only got into 40K after attending a Gamer's Convention

As a question to Malaysia, I wonder if there is much wargaming based on the history of the area.

What I mean is that the foundation of modern wargames in the UK is largely based on European events such as the Greco-Persian Wars, Roman Empire, Crusades, Renaissance, and so on. Obviously rules can be adaptable to different locales and Ancients provides army lists for just about every area of the world.

But I am wondering if Malaysian players have written any games specifically to cover their own history. It might appeal quite well to new players.

 ArbitorIan wrote:

 Mattlov wrote:
I wouldn't consider a model railroader a tabletop gamer or RPG player. A knitter has no connection to the hobby of wargaming/RPG playing. They shouldn't be included in the total of "the hobby" because they aren't part of it.

I think he meant 'Compared to other hobbies (such as model railroads) there are actually a decent amount of war gamers...'

Exactly.