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You also buy your vehicles in this game. If you did some research, that info's readily available. You buy them with in-game resources which you earn for taking bases, winning fights, and just being in-game for a while. You earn your vehicles here too. The post of mine you're quoting isn't one I made about game balance, it's, well, let me quote myself here:

 Brother SRM wrote:
Neither have you. Learning curve does not equal bad controls. It's also not a balance issue you're running off on, it's a one-off statement I said that "bad pilots means less airplanes in the air" which is a given.

 Brother SRM wrote:
You also buy your vehicles in this game

Ahem.

 Melissia wrote:
I am not talking about planetside 2.
[...]
I am not talking about planetside 2

I said it twice, but you didn't read either of the statements.

 Brother SRM wrote:
Learning curve does not equal bad controls.

So why are you advocating using bad controls ot increase the learning curve?

I've read everything you've posted and sincerely regretted every letter of it. I'm tired of talking in circles about a statement I don't care about, and we'll never see eye to eye on even if we say the exact same thing. Just drop it.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I'm tired of talking in circles about a statement I don't care abou

Shrug? Fine by me. It's off-topic anyway.

In things that actually matter, Planetside 1 vets who aren't currently subscribed are starting to be let in, so if you played Planetside 1 you should check your inboxes! The populations are up much higher than they were before. Unfortunately this happened just after the last patch made my performance better, so I had a brief few days where the game was running absolutely buttery smooth before the population increased drastically and brought my performance down again! It's still running pretty well most of the time though, and I had a great time last night yelling in cartoon voices over proximity chat. Scares the hell out of the NC!

Who here said that a Learning Curve equates to a Convoluted Control Scheme?

Tribes has a Learning Curve, but it doesn't have convoluted controls. It's simply that learning to maneuver and shoot accurately at high speeds takes a little time.

Similarly, SRM is saying that piloting aircraft in Planetside (and many other games, including games like Battlefield 3) is difficult to learn to do well, and has stiff penalties when you don't put the time into it- time that most people will probably prefer to put into other pursuits, like learning the best use and roles of MAX suits or Light Infantry, or just practicing their accuracy.

In other words, keeping the planes from flying themselves, and instead requiring a pilot with more than half a brain will keep the skies from being choked with idiot pilots who don't know what they're doing.


You're arguing with him because he's a 'Brother", aren't you?

Anvildude wrote:
Who here said that a Learning Curve equates to a Convoluted Control Scheme?

We dropped it. Move on.

Also, you didn't read my posts either, apparently, because I specifically said numerous times that I wasn't talking about flying in planetside 2.

Whoops. Sorry, got Ninja'd away.

And I'd appreciate it if people in general wouldn't say "Clearly didn't read my posts" so often, when most people do read the posts. "Clearly didn't understand my posts" would probably be more appropos.



On-topic, I'm most likely going to be playing when it comes out, along with a friend who's a PS1 vet, but we haven't decided on factions. Can anyone who's been playing give a quick description of the various factions' playstyles?

Are the TR still all about the Dakka? The NC about hard-hitting guns? (might have mixed those ones up)? Are the Vanu tanks better than those of the other factions?

There is only the Terran Republic!

 purplefood wrote:
There is only the Terran Republic!

I think you mean Imperium of Man.

 Karon wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
There is only the Terran Republic!

I think you mean Imperium of Man.

I think you mean the British Empire!
By Jove we'll show those rebels a thing or two!

 purplefood wrote:

 Karon wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
There is only the Terran Republic!

I think you mean Imperium of Man.

I think you mean the British Empire!
By Jove we'll show those rebels a thing or two!

No taxation without represen-- wait, we're past that, aren't we?

And which side won, again?

Anvildude wrote:

Are the TR still all about the Dakka? The NC about hard-hitting guns? (might have mixed those ones up)? Are the Vanu tanks better than those of the other factions?

TR are still all about Dakka, NC are still all about hard-hitting and slow firing guns, and Vanu are still all about disco and having underpowered weapons.

Anvildude wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

 Karon wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
There is only the Terran Republic!

I think you mean Imperium of Man.

I think you mean the British Empire!
By Jove we'll show those rebels a thing or two!

No taxation without represen-- wait, we're past that, aren't we?

And which side won, again?

Fairly sure it was us.

purplefood wrote:

Anvildude wrote:And which side won, again?

Fairly sure it was us.

I see what you did there.

 Brother SRM wrote:
TR are still all about Dakka, NC are still all about hard-hitting and slow firing guns, and Vanu are still all about disco and having underpowered weapons.

I'd probably want to play NC then.

I love a TR Max with duo assault cannons.

I am basically a Terminator.

A terminator, or The Terminator?

 Karon wrote:
I love a TR Max with duo assault cannons.

I am basically a Terminator.

A TR MAX with dual flamethrowers is literally a Firebat, and it rules.

And thus TR is the only sensible choice.

Hello TR brothers, good to see some sensible people on the forums

Well it looks like Ill have something to keep me going until preorders go up for the starter set at midnight, key holders are going to be flagged from 12pm PST onwards which is about 8pm GMT IIRC.

Ohhhh gawd dang it I cant hold my joy, an hour and a half to go before the refresh wars begin.

edit: Also think I have finally decided to be a space mar.... I mean MAX, gunna charge head first laughing like a maniac waving 2 flamethrowers everywhere. No one messes with a guy spraying fire everywhere

i wouldnt use the word charge and MAX suits in the same line, more like lumber at best. they are slow. even with their tiny burst ability that lasts 2 seconds they are still slow.

atleast they can ride in the APC and can even be a gunner for it. now if only there was a way for a galaxy to have a tow hook so you could be carried on the underbelly..

Deathklaat wrote:
i wouldnt use the word charge and MAX suits in the same line, more like lumber at best. they are slow. even with their tiny burst ability that lasts 2 seconds they are still slow.

atleast they can ride in the APC and can even be a gunner for it. now if only there was a way for a galaxy to have a tow hook so you could be carried on the underbelly..

Charge, lumber, same goal right?
Haha the underbelly thing reminded me of that conversion someone did by putting an angry marine atop a stormraven chained to it with 2 assault cannons. That would be me without question if this was possible in PS2.

And access for me got pushed back 2 hours :( Ohwell, should get a good hour in still.

Depending on the pilot, and on how high the landing platforms are, you could possibly stand a MAX on top of a Galaxy...

Vehicle surfing is possible in the game, but it's very hard. MAXes are kind of in a weird place right now, and I can see them getting a cooldown timer or resource cost given how effective they are. When the game launches proper, they won't be able to capture points either, which is a good thing. The one-man killing machines shouldn't be able to take bases too!

Ha I am so going to surf a galaxy.

I agree, the changes to the MAX are a good thing, makes sense and prevents battles becoming unbalanced I imagine.

I think it's more useful to stop a dozen or so Galaxies dropping as many MAXs (And only MAXs) as possible onto a key point...
If they could capture the point it'd be easy for them to be resupplied but since they need additional units to help them it pushes to focus to combined units rather than simply air dropping man-tanks everywhere...

Any clue when those who didn't play planetside will get invited?

I never relaly had a chance to play-- by the time I even heard of it it was already really, really old.

Awww man, now it isnt till 5. For gods sakes Smedley, this is the third time. :(

edit: Hmmmm, well from the pattern of it, there has been a 1-3 week period between each group of invites so hopefully people who just signed up shouldnt wait too long. I am guessing 1-2 weeks, probably a week and a day. Keys for betas only usually get about a weeks early access dont they?

Is there an open beta today?