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My friend who owns a bunch of codexes told me,

Salamanders only care about themselves and their people and that Nocturne is a Forge world with its own Imperial Guard and PDF
All Inquisitors only do exterminatus regardless of anything
Bloodthirsters are near impossible to kill and only primarchs can kill them
Imperial Guard has never won against Chaos before
Imperial Guardsmen only have the life expectency of 6 minutes
Being in the Imperial Guard is shameful
Bloodthirsters have toughness 8
Sisters of battle are considered cannon fodder
All members of Ordo Xenos hate Eldar, even that guy who was invited by the Harlequins to spend the rest of life in the Black Library
Its impossible for non space marine forces to win against Chaos at all
Stormtroopers are genetically modified super soldiers
Only those who are genetically modified get Bs 4
Prometheus is a deathstar like moon built by Volkan

here are some more:
Inquisitors don't bother to find out anything and use exterminatus freely; even if they kind of think there is a possibility of a taint
Imperial Officials aren't cared for
Terminator Armor is the only thing in the Galaxy that can provide a 2+ save(not counting Orks)
Only a Space Marine can have t4 fluff wise


Verify these please?

All of those are wrong, except for maybe the Bloodthirsters being toughness 8 one.

He's either lying, or trolling.

Stormtroopers are just elite guardsmen.

Nope, that one's wrong too. The Bloodthirster is T5 or 6 IIRC - certainly not T8.
@OP Everything you posted is completely wrong.

Yeah, this guy's messing with you big time. Most of those are the complete opposite of true.

Inquisitors are tought to hate every xenos there is, however there are radical inquisitors who cooperate with them, but i would't describe their relationship as friendly. Imperial Guard are elite compared to local pdf and I believe they have defeated chaos many times, well look at cadia. BS4 is definately achievable without genetic engineering. I hope this helps. Sorry for my english, it's not my mother tongue =)

I have a feeling that many if not all of these ideas stem from various licensed products, most notably certain Black Library novels. I imagine most of those would only be impressions gained from reading it, though, instead of it actually being stated there.
"Redemption Corps" might account for #8 and #11, for example.

I also don't think that it's the OP who is trolling - rather, somebody likely claimed these things and sceptical OP is now trying to find out if there's any inkling of truth to it.

Vytenis wrote:Imperial Guard are elite compared to local pdf and I believe they have defeated chaos many times, well look at cadia.

Well that is admittedly not true, given that the Imperial Guard is recruited from the PDF. They're supposed to be the best the world has to offer, but (a) that doesn't have to be true, (b) there could be more of them remaining in the PDF and (c) in the Imperium, there's so many worlds that you will invariably end up with some PDF who are actually better than some IG, simply because they were recruited from a "better" planet.
I think the 5E Guard Codex actually makes a mention about how PDF are constantly underestimated - but like I said, you really have to go case by case there, e.g. Mordian PDF vs Valhallan IG.

But yeah, IG wins against Chaos quite often. Actually, since I already mentioned them, just look at the Mordians and their homeworld's background.
Or, for additional lulz, read the Codex Planetstrike and giggle about Colonel Straken choking a CSM Lord to death.

Well he is either insanely full of grox dropping or trolling

Read Gaunt's Ghosts for the Guard questions ;p

Literally all of those are wrong. You should smack your friend with a red whippy stick.

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Those are wrong as well.

The source of these is the mind of a Chaos fanboy and IG hater. None of this is true. Not even the Bloodthirster toughness bit. (They are T7, IIRC)

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All still completely wrong.

Seriously ? He owns a "bunch" of codicies and he spouts this drivel ?

Ask if you can borrow them - if... no WHEN he says no, slap him - VERY HARD - and hope he re-boots with a little more sense

Just seems like a bad case of Chinese whispers. Its as if though all the things you heard from your friend was told to him by another friend, who was told by another friend who had read all the Codexes and such. Eventually exaggerations and such will find its way and you get this load of bull.

PresidentOfAsia wrote:Imperial Guardsmen only have the life expectency of 6 minutes

I see what your friend is getting at with that. They have a front line life expectancy of fifteen hours.

So, if those are all crap, what is prometheus? I kind thought it was a death star type thing.

He has lots of Codi but he doesn't own any of the ones that these comments relate to, tell him to buy these ones as well and then comment.

Mongooli wrote:So, if those are all crap, what is prometheus? I kind thought it was a death star type thing.

A 2012 Sci fi film that has no relevance to Warhammer 40,000

Do you mean Nocturne? It's a fiery flamey Death World.

Glorioski wrote:

PresidentOfAsia wrote:Imperial Guardsmen only have the life expectency of 6 minutes

I see what your friend is getting at with that. They have a front line life expectancy of fifteen hours.

Still not true...
In that particular battlefield the life expectancy of a new guardsman was 15 hours...

No, I know what nocturne is. After checking wikipedia, prometheus is the name of the over sized moon in nocturnes orbit, and is also the name if a massive fortress monastery on said moons surface. So no, not a death star.

Time to go through these one by one! Yeah!

Salamanders only care about themselves and their people and that Nocturne is a Forge world with its own Imperial Guard and PDF If presented with the choice of killing an Ork Warboss or protecting a civilian shelter, the Salamanders would choose the shelter. At least based on my exposure to them in Helsreach
All Inquisitors only do exterminatus regardless of anything What? No. That's a last-resort "only if the taint runs too deep to remove". Planets still have strategic value
Bloodthirsters are near impossible to kill and only primarchs can kill them They can be banished from the mortal realm, but they are still alive in the Warp, true. But if you mean killing as in mess up their physical forms, anyone can technically do it
Imperial Guard has never won against Chaos before So wrong on so many levels
Imperial Guardsmen only have the life expectency of 6 minutes No. The only mention of Guard life expectancy is in the novel Fifteen Hours, where it says the average life span of a replacement Guardsman on the front lines in that particular war zone is 15 hours
Being in the Imperial Guard is shameful No. Many planets consider it a matter of pride and honor
Bloodthirsters have toughness 8 I don't have the codex to know, so I can't say
Sisters of battle are considered cannon fodder What? No, that's silly
All members of Ordo Xenos hate Eldar, even that guy who was invited by the Harlequins to spend the rest of life in the Black Library They are trained to hate all Xenos. But the more radical ones might be willing to work with them to hunt the larger threats.
Its impossible for non space marine forces to win against Chaos at all Also silly. The Sabbat Worlds Crusade and Cadia would like to have a word about that
Stormtroopers are genetically modified super soldiers They're just people with the best HUMAN training and gear
Only those who are genetically modified get Bs 4 Or people with really good training
Prometheus is a deathstar like moon built by Volkan It's a really big moon with a Fortress Monastery on it.
Inquisitors don't bother to find out anything and use exterminatus freely; even if they kind of think there is a possibility of a taint As I mentioned above, no. Some planets are too valuable
Imperial Officials aren't cared for Depends what you mean by 'cared for', and what level of official they are.
Terminator Armor is the only thing in the Galaxy that can provide a 2+ save(not counting Orks) Artificier Armor.
Only a Space Marine can have t4 fluff wise Does he mean among humans? Because every Ork has t4

Elector wrote:Only a Space Marine can have t4 fluff wise
Does he mean among humans? Because every Ork has t4

Even just among humans it'd still be wrong. There's a number of Imperial non-Marine minis with T4, as well as special rules that may grant it temporarily.
Not sure what the "fluffwise" is supposed to mean here, though. How exactly do you transform a TT stat into fluff? Game mechanics are intentionally abstract, so where T3 stops and where T4 starts is entirely up to personal interpretation.

Lynata wrote:

Elector wrote:Only a Space Marine can have t4 fluff wise
Does he mean among humans? Because every Ork has t4

Even just among humans it'd still be wrong. There's a number of Imperial non-Marine minis with T4, as well as special rules that may grant it temporarily.
Not sure what the "fluffwise" is supposed to mean here, though. How exactly do you transform a TT stat into fluff? Game mechanics are intentionally abstract, so where T3 stops and where T4 starts is entirely up to personal interpretation.

Sorry, I mean having the equivalent of having toughness 4;

Also, he says that Inquisitors never bother to study or investigate anything and just exterminatus cause they feel like it

In addition:
Necron tomb worlds have never been destroyed
All the Imperial Guard at the end of Dawn of War 2 Retribution were executed cause they saw Kyras as a daemon prince
Imperial Guard commanders never use tactics and all they do is clog the front lines with bodies and make the enemy run out of bullets

Really though, he just blabbers his mouth off and not more then once have I corrected him on various things;

PresidentOfAsia wrote:Sorry, I mean having the equivalent of having toughness 4

Ah, in that case ... See Colonel Straken:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod30015a

Just one example that springs to mind.

In his case, I suppose it's a combination of Born on Catachan + Bionics + War Veteran

PresidentOfAsia wrote:Really though, he just blabbers his mouth off and not more then once have I corrected him on various things

I think you'd do well to just get a "groxgak" stamp to deal with his claims. A number of them hold a small sliver of truth (there really are some Inquisitors and IG Commanders like that), but become completely ridiculous when worded the way you have presented them here (in case of the Inquisitors and IG Commanders, by replacing the "some" with "all").

Hell yeah Colonel "I ripped a Miral Landshark's throat out with my teeth" Straken is T4... at least, I mean come on the man throttled a chaos lord to death at some point IIRC, that earns one a hardcore merit badge in ANY book.

Yeah to confirm my esteemed brethren above "grox gak" in the highest possible caliber.

The only bloodthirster that has toughness 8 is an'grath, who is a CQC beast and is really hard to kill

Hmm there may be a single nugget of truth in there, AFAIK no Necron tomb world has been completely destroyed.

MandalorynOranj wrote:Hmm there may be a single nugget of truth in there, AFAIK no Necron tomb world has been completely destroyed.

I believe one was wiped out in the Cain novels, (it's Caves of Ice) flooded with promethium, blown up then the planet was scoured by lance batteries from an Ordo Xenos battlefleet, fire was directly in to the massive hole caused by an explosion that could be felt in orbit and was many kilotons of TNT to the equivalent. A FAE of unimagineable magnitude.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:I believe one was wiped out in the Cain novels, (it's Caves of Ice) flooded with promethium, blown up then the planet was scoured by lance batteries from an Ordo Xenos battlefleet, fire was directly in to the massive hole caused by an explosion that could be felt in orbit and was many kilotons of TNT to the equivalent. A FAE of unimagineable magnitude.

I reckon it's not that rare in licensed material - novels in particular have a tendency to make epic stuff seem like an everyday job, simply because just about every book tries to tell another "epic" story, thus making it inevitable that various feats get repeated over time. I suppose the moon blown up by the Sororitas in Hammer & Anvil qualifies as a tombworld as well, anyways.
Did something like that ever happen in GW fluff, though? I'm honestly not so sure now.