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I've seen the better pics, and both the flies and flame chariots are improved, but I still don't much like them. We'll see how they look in the flesh. I'm a bit nervous about the rules, but only parts are out now. I'll reserve judgement til the actual books come out.

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Now I'm almost regretting deciding make my nurgle army last and my slaanesh army first...

Almost... who knows? maybe I'll do Khorne last?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I still think the models look a might silly, better than the rumour pics, but still not very good. The heralds aren't bad though.

As for the prices, they do seem quite a bit more reasonable than I was expecting, save for the finecast, but then that's the norm really. They're not any more overpriced than most finecast.

I thought so too, those dual kits could easily have gone for 50$ or more.

The dual kits are $55 au, but they are only chariot bases, other fantasy chariots are only $44 so it is a price increase.

Wait, what? the God bundels have a HQ?

and nurgle/slaanesh bundles have special characters! Epidemus for nurgle and the Masque for slaanesh!

sorely tempted to pick up the Slaanesh Limited Edition Codex, though... mmm

The herald of tzeentch chariot looks better than I expected (really aladdin'ish), but everything else still looks very disappointing. I will pick up the codex + psychic cards.. and maaaaybe a box of flies to convert with. They are ok, but not good or great. They should have done something more similar to the forgeworld blight drone - a hybrid mechanical/flesh abomination along the lines of the soulgrinder. Or, some giant threatening beast with flesh rotting off the bone, along the lines of the zombie dragon.

Wow, the real pictures make this stuff look MUCH better than I thought. The only model here that I'm not a fan of is the Khorne chariot. Going with the simple "pulled by Juggernauts" route would have been a lot better there, I feel.

Weird. I swear it looks like someone at GW designed an awesome looking Khorne themed motorcycle, and then got forced to stick three bloodletters on top of it. And then stuck a bad color scheme on the undercarriage. :(

Oh, they are sticking with the finecrapst for the heralds and heroes? yeah, not going there.

Any of the chariot type models if made as the alternative model (ie, skullcannon) will yield a free plastic herald. The only herald without a chariot is the nurgle one, and the new nurgle herald just happens to be plastic!

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Oh, they are sticking with the finecast for the heralds and heroes? yeah, not going there.

The Slaanesh and Khorne heralds are Finecast, but you can get plastic heralds from the Chariot kits if you build them as their alternate configurations, much like the Necron Overlord and Catacomb Command/Annihilation Barge.

Anyone noticed that Karanak and The Changeling are now HQ choices in GW's site?

 Kingsley wrote:
Wow, the real pictures make this stuff look MUCH better than I thought. The only model here that I'm not a fan of is the Khorne chariot. Going with the simple "pulled by Juggernauts" route would have been a lot better there, I feel.

Agreed. The flies look pretty neat without the snout faces, I should add some to my pre-order.

Lol, I know I will be alone in this, but having looked at the 360 image, I actually kind of like the Khorne Skull Cannon. It's pleasingly bonkers. Ho Hum.

The Nurgle Flies without the snuffle heads are good too, except for the static riders.

If I was starting a Daemon army and GW prices hadn't disappeared into fantasy land, I'd be tempted by some of this stuff.

They look good to me. The online negativity brigade were always going to rip apart some poorly scanned WD photos.

 Glorioski wrote:
They look good to me. The online negativity brigade were always going to rip apart some poorly scanned WD photos.

Always going to be the way- I try not to even look at any early release photos, as you can never really tell how good a model is until you have it physically in your hands.

Pleasantly surprised by this release! The tzeentch chariot looks good to me, and the price is reasonable for GW

Waited for the proper pics before I commented and that Khorne thing is an abomination [and not in a good way]. Whoever designed it [does anyone know?], and whoever signed it off, need to be slapped repeatedly around the face then shown the door. The plague drones are ok, except for the spiky saddle bit which looks off, and the Tzeentch chariot is also not bad, although the other configuration looks way over the top and the flames look wierd.

I don't buy anything in finecast so the new herald sculpts are of no interest to me.

Having different codexes for the different gods is a nice idea, but I'm not paying £25 for a different cover. Plus seeing as most of the rules support for the different gods has been ditched [sacred number, rivalries between the gods etc.] and the internal content is the same, I don't see the point.

So out of the last two releases for two of my armies [Chaos Marines and Daemons], and despite being a huge fan of all things chaos, I haven't been impressed enough to buy any of the new models.

I was very down on the Plague Drones, but I am coming around to them. The larger photos make them look less like sacks and more like insects, and the riders don't look quite so 'stuck on'. I think the fact that they are multipose means they're less homogenous than a one-piece model, and I suspect the posing makes a big difference. I'm still not keen on most of the other new models, apart from maybe the Herald of Nurgle.

I'm glad they look better than most made out (including myself) tbh - they look fun to paint at least - don't care much for how they are in the game.

I think there's potential to squeeze a lot out of the kits - you could easily convert the Plague Drones into Blight Drones or a set of 3 Nurgle Spawn (which is what I'm thinking of doing), as well as getting an HQ and another choice out of the chariot kits (and an additional two or three horrors by the looks of things).

To me all the Bloodletters look stuck on, as oppossed to being part of the kit, I'd much rather have a Juggernaught pulling the Blood Throne - but there's still an opportunity to get 2 Bloodletters and a Herald out of the kit. Well 1 Bloodletter - I think it'll be amusing to have just a single Bloodletter holding onto the Cannon

The flamer chariot looks so much better with actual flames painted onto it - not a mixture of coral and silly string IMHO

I don't get the Herald of Nurgle model. You get ten of those in the Plaguebearer box for almost the same price.

Well, the bees look a lot better than the pre-release pictures did, except for the little fanged penises - to be frank, the higher the resolution the worse off we are on those.

The Khornecycle is just yet another epic "how did we get here" sculpt. Why is he standing atop the throne instead of sitting on it? Why are there Bloodletters pulling it instead of Juggernauts? Most of all, how did this happen, conceptually?

Herald of Tzeentch is quite well-done, though. Not my thing but definitely fits the aesthetic and looks very nice.

Not seeing the value in the Herald of Nurgle - for $25, they could have done a little more then gussied up a Plaguebearer. Lazy and greedy.

Herald of Khorne delivers what the Herald of Nurgle didn't. Still a Bloodletter stands right out as being special. Not as nice as the FW one but the FW one is incredible. This is still very nice, IMO, although the pose is a little goofy - is he pooping a line of skulls or what? My dog once ate an entire paper towel sheet when she was a puppy, and when she tried to pass it, it got stuck. She ran around the yard barking in terror while it was hanging out of her, flapping around. I had to put on rubber gloves and slowly pull it out. That line of skulls reminds me strongly of that. She ate a lot of inedible things. But now we're digressing.

Herald of Slaanesh is OK. I'd give it a B-. I wish they'd made these heralds stand out a little more.

 Ouze wrote:
My dog once ate an entire paper towel sheet when she was a puppy, and when she tried to pass it, it got stuck. She ran around the yard barking in terror while it was hanging out of her, flapping around. I had to put on rubber gloves and slowly pull it out. That line of skulls reminds me strongly of that. She ate a lot of inedible things. But now we're digressing.

Haha glad I finished my breakfast before I read that.

Overall I like the new release. I have a lot of Tzeentch Daemons so I probably won't be buying anything.

Although I did order the limited edition Tzeentch Codex last night.

 Ouze wrote:
Well, the bees look a lot better than the pre-release pictures did, except for the little fanged penises - to be frank, the higher the resolution the worse off we are on those.

They will be highly sought after bits for conversions though, naughty bits so to speak

 Ouze wrote:

The Khornecycle is just yet another epic "how did we get here" sculpt. Why is he standing atop the throne instead of sitting on it? Why are there Bloodletters pulling it instead of Juggernauts? Most of all, how did this happen, conceptually?

Its not being pulled by the bloodletters, it has an engine in the back
Would be hard for bloodletters to pull it when they're standing on it

Karanak and the Changeling are listed as HQ units now
And Lords and Heroes for WFB

Chad Warden wrote:
Karanak and the Changeling are listed as HQ units now
And Lords and Heroes for WFB

I can imagine Karanak making Flesh Hounds troop choices, or something along those lines.

 Requiem wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

The Khornecycle is just yet another epic "how did we get here" sculpt. Why is he standing atop the throne instead of sitting on it? Why are there Bloodletters pulling it instead of Juggernauts? Most of all, how did this happen, conceptually?

Its not being pulled by the bloodletters, it has an engine in the back
Would be hard for bloodletters to pull it when they're standing on it

Oh, it's like a parade float, then, and they're standing on it, waving to the crowd? Not sure that improves it.

The one on the bottom left is going "Free chicken drum to the one who eats the marine first!"

(How do you make images smaller D: )

Nice I always prefer Nurgle Musicians to play Bells. Not feeling the bone flute thing on the Plaguebearers from last year so a welcome return. Can't wait to get a box. The riders might look a bit static in the Eavy Metal pics but with a bit of extra work and a decent paint job they would look amazing.

Not much I don't like here except the Heralds. Think you can convert/kit-bash/scratch build your own quite easily. And they'd look more impressive IMO.

I'm guessing that giant Flamer thing would also make a nice stand alone model (Pyrocaster or Flamer-style Herald perhaps) if you build the Herald variant.

The Khorne chariot/motorbike thing had me a bit worried at first as I really wanted a Jugger Chariot but looking at it in 360 view I'm really impressed. Same deal as the Plague Drones regarding Paintjob though. Eavy Metal ones look a bit bright and cheerful.

Good work GW. Pleasantly surprised.

(much rather be able to get paperback codex for 20 quid though. There's no point having a nice Hardback book that's gonna get bashed around and thumbed through so much)