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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 20:40:58
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Amaya wrote: but can people seriously not look at both sides of the argument and see that each one has merit?
This is the internetz, so no I don't think that that is allowed actually...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 20:46:06
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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According to a connected local blogger:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/akin-advisers-ready-for-candidate-to-withdraw-from-race-tuesday/
It’s over for Akin.
Advisers are readying for him to withdraw from the race tomorrow.
TPM reported:
Missouri Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin’s advisers are making preparations to withdraw from the race Tuesday, GOP operative Richard Grenell and RedState.com editor Erick Erickson report. Grenell cited “GOP sources” in his tweet announcing the withdrawal, which has yet to be confirmed by Akin.
Twitchy has more.
State Auditor Tom Schweich and Congressional candidate Ann Wagner are being mentioned as a replacement.
All the big MO GOP names interested in replacing Akin but Auditor Tom Schweich is the sole new name being floated.
— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) August 20, 2012
John Ashcroft, Jim Talent, and Kit Bond are also being mentioned as replacement candidates.
Crossroads and the NRSC withdrew support for Akin earlier today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 20:55:46
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Urban Dictionary were quick on the case: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Legitimate%20Rape&defid=6722495
As far as slip ups go, it's a big one
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 20:58:19
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I like the term 'hilarious prison rape'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:12:35
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Our own Ken Clarke made a similar gaff trying to differentiate those 'less serious rapes' for lower sentences. I think he was trying to deal with things like statutory rape, where a willing 15 year old girl and 16 year old boy get it on, well that's actually rape by law. I don't think he exposed a nasty misogynistic side as this Republican has, but he still dug himself a bloody great hole the stupid old goat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:19:42
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Howard A Treesong wrote:
Our own Ken Clarke made a similar gaff trying to differentiate those 'less serious rapes' for lower sentences. I think he was trying to deal with things like statutory rape, where a willing 15 year old girl and 16 year old boy get it on, well that's actually rape by law. I don't think he exposed a nasty misogynistic side as this Republican has, but he still dug himself a bloody great hole the stupid old goat.
That was entirely the media's fault. Made him sound like he was advocating rape when, as you say, he was simply making the distinction between consensual statuary rape and violent rape, saying that we probably shouldn't treat them the same.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:29:12
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Testify wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:
Our own Ken Clarke made a similar gaff trying to differentiate those 'less serious rapes' for lower sentences. I think he was trying to deal with things like statutory rape, where a willing 15 year old girl and 16 year old boy get it on, well that's actually rape by law. I don't think he exposed a nasty misogynistic side as this Republican has, but he still dug himself a bloody great hole the stupid old goat.
That was entirely the media's fault. Made him sound like he was advocating rape when, as you say, he was simply making the distinction between consensual statuary rape and violent rape, saying that we probably shouldn't treat them the same.
What he did do was group 'date rape' in with underage sex. Date rapes are rapes like any other, you drug someone and take advantage of them, but he seemed conflate this with sex acts that are consensual but still illegal (as in the case of underage sex). Incredibly clumsy, I'm not sure what he was doing but he did clarify his use of date rape as being mistaken but stuck to the point about underage sex. Which is fair enough because actually, no one wants to see a couple of teenagers being put through the criminal courts for getting a bit carried away after school. Though his clarification was a bit more convincing than "I, ummm, ummm... misspoke, I don't know what I meant, but umm... not whatever you thought... vote for me!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:37:04
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Amaya wrote:I know people are typically stupid, but can people seriously not look at both sides of the argument and see that each one has merit?
Sometimes it's hard to see the merit in a hateful, misogynistic discourse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:44:01
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Fixture of Dakka
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mattyrm wrote: AustonT wrote:I don't have anyone on ignore. That's not how conversations work or happen. Plenty of people are irritating but I'd rather hear what they have to say.
Me either, but for the less intellectual reason of "I proper love arguing with people!"
There's that too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:52:21
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Howard A Treesong wrote:What he seems to think is that in cases of what we could call 'proper-rape', like if a woman is just grabbed off the pavement and dragged into a dark alley, then somehow the female body can prevent the pregnancy occurring.
That still makes him a either a mental midget or an ignorant jackass.
Or both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 21:57:35
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not to be outdone. Everyone's favourite cat impersonator George Galloway has jumped onto the 'say something stupid about rape' bandwagon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19323783
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 01:01:53
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow. It's like he wants me to punch him in the face. He's a fething lunatic with delusions of grandeur, who seems to be addicted to the thrill of controversy. An attention-whore, basically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 01:15:33
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Saw this earlier. As far as I know, no one actually knows what the allegations are. I would refrain from publically saying things like that, especially about something as emotive as rape.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 01:50:02
Subject: Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You know that what you said was bat-gak crazy when even the Tea Party thinks you are too nuts and should step down...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/20/tea-party-express-calls-on-akin-to-step-down/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 02:28:48
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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It's over for Atkins... he skipped two appearances this evening...
One was Piers Morgan's CNN show and can't remember the other.
He's done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 02:34:14
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If what you said is so stupid that it qualifies as a legitimate mind-rape then the Republican body can shut down the election and prevent a campaign.
Or something like that...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 02:39:36
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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d-usa wrote:If what you said is so stupid that it qualifies as a legitimate mind-rape then the Republican body can shut down the election and prevent a campaign.
Or something like that...
Heh... something like that...
The weird thing was that in "local news", this was barely discussed... seems the furor is more on a "national" scale than anything.
Weird.
But, he's done since his fundings has been pulled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 02:48:17
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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whembly wrote:It's over for Atkins... he skipped two appearances this evening...
One was Piers Morgan's CNN show and can't remember the other.
He's done.
How is that even possible? Orlanth explained so carefully and painstakingly how there was nothing at all wrong with what he said, so why isn't the rest of the GOP establishment backing him up? Perhaps they're all just RINOS.
Or, perhaps he's just a giant toolbox, who, when he says he wants to "take our country back", is completely clear about what this phrase means with regards to women's rights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 02:49:10
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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He want to take our country back to 1910?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 03:13:53
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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[DCM]
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Exactly. Or maybe ~1775, so he could be in on the Constitutional Convention, and help make sure it was a bit clearer about being a Christian Nation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 03:41:54
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Hallowed Canoness
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Mannahnin wrote:Exactly. Or maybe ~1775, so he could be in on the Constitutional Convention, and help make sure it was a bit clearer about being a Christian Nation.
Gotta get rid of the Barbary treaty too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 03:44:04
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Well, at least change the wording quite a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 04:23:21
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Hallowed Canoness
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The sentence declaring the US to not be a Christian nation /is/ fairly damning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 04:25:34
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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azazel the cat wrote:Amaya wrote:I know people are typically stupid, but can people seriously not look at both sides of the argument and see that each one has merit?
Sometimes it's hard to see the merit in a hateful, misogynistic discourse.
Yes, because being against abortion on the basis that one is against the killing of human life is obviously rooted in hate not love.
Do you think things through or just choke down what the media spoon feeds you? Whether or not abortion should be banned is up for the masses decide. I don't care either way. I think having an abortion is a tough decision to make. Its not as if people are going " lol I'm preggers time to kill a baby!"
Constantly denying that abortions can be avoided (outside of rape) is utter nonsense. You can't control yourself and want to avoid raising the child, fine, but don't pretty up as anything other then preventing a human life and don't expect everyone to agree with or even respect your decision. At the same time, pro life supporters need to back the hell off and realize that this is not a fething theocracy and not everything done in America is going to be in line with their myriad of interpretations of an ancient book and reread the part where Jesus says to actively love your neighbor as yourself instead of being a sanctimonious git.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 04:59:36
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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A poll conducted and released on Monday found that U.S. Rep. Todd Akin, who's under fire for his comments about "legitimate rape," still has an edge over Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill in Missouri's Senate race.
Public Policy Polling, a North Carolina-based Democratic polling firm, has Akin leading McCaskill by one point, 44 percent to 43 percent. That's not much different from PPP's last poll of the race, which also found Akin ahead by one point, 45 percent to 44 percent.
But Akin's sustained lead doesn't mean Missouri voters agree with what the Republican candidate said. The poll found that 75 percent say Akin's comments were inappropriate, and 79 percent say they disagree with them.
In releasing the results, PPP concluded that "GOP voters dislike McCaskill so much they're not going to vote for her no matter what their nominee does."
"This looks like it will be a closely contested race if Akin stays in," PPP President Dean Debnam said in a statement that came with the poll results.
Akin apologized for his comments on Monday but vowed to stay in the race in the face of criticism from his own party and some calls for him to quit, saying on Mike Huckabee's radio show "I'm not a quitter" and taking to Twitter to say that he's "in this race to win."
Well. At least Republican voters have sticktoitivness.
EDIT: Then again, if a North Carolina pollster is as reliable as the rest of the state, maybe not
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 06:02:21
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
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I'm fairly certain that PPP is a joke here in NC.
I'm also fairly certain they're the douchenozzles who keep calling my cell phone, despite it being an unlisted number, and telling me "This is not a survey call".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 07:35:54
Subject: Re:Idiot Poltician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Amaya wrote:
Constantly denying that abortions can be avoided (outside of rape) is utter nonsense. You can't control yourself and want to avoid raising the child, fine, but don't pretty up as anything other then preventing a human life and don't expect everyone to agree with or even respect your decision. At the same time, pro life supporters need to back the hell off and realize that this is not a fething theocracy and not everything done in America is going to be in line with their myriad of interpretations of an ancient book and reread the part where Jesus says to actively love your neighbor as yourself instead of being a sanctimonious git.
This.
A thousand time this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 07:50:25
Subject: Idiot Politician (R, MO) talks about "Legitimate rape"
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Amaya wrote:azazel the cat wrote:Amaya wrote:I know people are typically stupid, but can people seriously not look at both sides of the argument and see that each one has merit?
Sometimes it's hard to see the merit in a hateful, misogynistic discourse. Yes, because being against abortion on the basis that one is against the killing of human life is obviously rooted in hate not love.
And now we do a wonderful two-step dance: 1. Do you believe a woman should have complete control over her own body? 2. If yes, then you are tacitly accepting a pro-choice stance. If no, then you prove my statement correct. *jazz hands*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 07:55:08
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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No one really has complete control over their own body.
Habeeb it.
#autonomic nervous system
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 08:11:55
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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azazel the cat wrote:Amaya wrote:azazel the cat wrote:Amaya wrote:I know people are typically stupid, but can people seriously not look at both sides of the argument and see that each one has merit?
Sometimes it's hard to see the merit in a hateful, misogynistic discourse.
Yes, because being against abortion on the basis that one is against the killing of human life is obviously rooted in hate not love.
And now we do a wonderful two-step dance:
1. Do you believe a woman should have complete control over her own body?
2. If yes, then you are tacitly accepting a pro-choice stance. If no, then you prove my statement correct.
Which really obfuscate the fact that the prime consequences of abortion is directed at another body than that of the women. Namely, the fetus. Or that in the most case, we would think it unfair to punish someone for the consequences of a (hopefully) conscious decision of another person.
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