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If the gods are a reflection of emotion, and love is the strongest emotion (IMO), then why is there corresponding god representing love?
   
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I think the chaos gods take the strong emotions and twist them. Thus love gets broken down into lust (slaanesh), dependency (tzeentch), possessiveness (khorne) and fear of loss (nurgle).

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 lunarman wrote:
I think the chaos gods take the strong emotions and twist them. Thus love gets broken down into lust (slaanesh), dependency (tzeentch), possessiveness (khorne) and fear of loss (nurgle).


This ^^

Also remember that Chaos gods represent the most EXTREME of every emotion. The most EXTREME love you can experience is no longer love, but more obsession. All emotions are bad in excess, since there are so many humans feeding into the warp all emotions are in excess there.
   
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Except I think love of one's children is among the strongest and most common and yet contains no lust, dependency, or possessiveness.

edit - forgot to add the "no!"

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I dont think loving your kids is exactly chaotic.
   
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Chaos twists any emotion, no matter how pure it is initially.

How much do you love you children? Would you kill for them? Die for them? That's Khorne's domain. If your child was sick, would you not beg the Lord of Plagues to cure him? Don't you want your children to succeed and be happy? Even if it meant scheming and plotting to make sure they get ahead in life? Who does that sound like?

   
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Perhaps love isn't the strongest emotion. Also, it could feed any Chaos God, depending on what you love.

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I think Nurgle is responsible for Love the most - his followers call him Father Nurgle and their relationship is similar to parent-child.
   
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 blood lance wrote:
I dont think loving your kids is exactly chaotic.


That would go to Papa Nurgle.
   
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Yup, depending on the source, Nurgle can be quite pleasant. His domain can include compassion, acceptance (as in accepting other people, flaws and all), and familial love (although probably not romantic love).

If you are referring to romantic love, then you are probably looking at Slaanesh, since it is more of the pursuit of an ideal (an aspect of perfection).

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adam_gipson wrote:
Except I think love of one's children is among the strongest and most common and yet contains no lust, dependency, or possessiveness."


Are you sure???

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Loved them soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much, he slammed the door in the social workers face, axed his kids, and then blew his home up while he was inside. If taken to "extremes" that the Ruinous Powers normally do, yes, it can contain ALL those things.

Commander Endova wrote:
Chaos twists any emotion, no matter how pure it is initially.

How much do you love you children? Would you kill for them? Die for them? That's Khorne's domain. If your child was sick, would you not beg the Lord of Plagues to cure him? Don't you want your children to succeed and be happy? Even if it meant scheming and plotting to make sure they get ahead in life? Who does that sound like?


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This has been discussed more times than I can count, but yes, gods of objectively 'good' emotions do exist.

They are extremely limited, however, because of the overwhelming misery that is the 40k grimdark setting. Also, such beings would have little interest in effecting the material realm anyway and thus would have even a less of a chance to be seen.

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adam_gipson wrote:
Except I think love of one's children is among the strongest and most common and yet contains no... possessiveness.

Nonsense, there are plenty of parents that are possessive of their parents. They are like people that baby their children far longer than they should.
   
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adam_gipson wrote:
Except I think love of one's children is among the strongest and most common and yet contains no lust, dependency, or possessiveness.

edit - forgot to add the "no!"


In the latest WD deamon fluff it mentions that even a "mother's pray for he feverish child" feeds chaos.

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How about the Eldar gods?

Also, what about depression and saddness, what gods represtent them??

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 Plague-Master wrote:
How about the Eldar gods?

Also, what about depression and saddness, what gods represtent them??
The eldar gods were completely different, and didn't represent evils. Ask someone else who knows more about them, but they weren't formed in the same way as chaos gods (otherwise Slaanesh would be an eldar god, which she isn't).

As for depression and sadness, I think these are caused by the gods rather than being parts of them.

   
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Slaanesh is an Eldar God, it was the direct actions of the Eldar that gave birth to Slaanesh and the reason why the Dark Eldar hide in the Webway and the Craftworld Eldar wear Soulstons.

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According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.

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 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


There was a short story a while back ago about the minor chaos god malice and I think think the story was called Sons of Malice. The CSM in the story ate live people and there was even a live space marine they ate lol.

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 Plague-Master wrote:
How about the Eldar gods?

Also, what about depression and saddness, what gods represtent them??

Nurgle probably, being the god of despair.

And Slaanesh ate most of the Eldar gods.

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 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


Warp being does not equal chaos god, but chaos god does equal warp being.

The Eldar gods were the creation of the Old Ones to guide the Eldar, they each represented a particular aspect (but as their end goal was not chaos and destruction they are not chaos gods). Slaanesh is not an Eldar god as it was not created as part of that pantheon, but much later by the Eldar themselves.

It is similar to how Gork and Mork are warp entities but not chaos gods.

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 lunarman wrote:
I think the chaos gods take the strong emotions and twist them. Thus love gets broken down into lust (slaanesh), dependency (tzeentch), possessiveness (khorne) and fear of loss (nurgle).



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 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


I believe for a short while in the late 80's GW had a 5th chaos god named Balrog that ruled them all. Until the Tolkien family told them to cease a desist.

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 spacewolved wrote:
 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


I believe for a short while in the late 80's GW had a 5th chaos god named Balrog that ruled them all. Until the Tolkien family told them to cease a desist.


Really?

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 DarthMarko wrote:
 spacewolved wrote:
 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


I believe for a short while in the late 80's GW had a 5th chaos god named Balrog that ruled them all. Until the Tolkien family told them to cease a desist.


Really?

No.

Edit: to answer the OP's question, the four Chaos powers are based on the four classical humours; love wasn't one of them.

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 DarthMarko wrote:
 spacewolved wrote:
 Ratbarf wrote:
According to Lexicanum the Eldar Gods are Warp Beings, so yeah, they would seem to be Chaos Gods. However, I do seem to recall there once being many more minor Chaos Gods than only the big four there are today.


I believe for a short while in the late 80's GW had a 5th chaos god named Balrog that ruled them all. Until the Tolkien family told them to cease a desist.


Really?


No. Balrog was an old name for the Bloodthirster. Even Heroquest had a Bloodthirster named Balrog.

I think he meant to say "Malal" the 5th god who worked against the other gods. No need for a 5th god when everything revolves around 4.

4 Chaos Gods, 4 C'Tan, 2 Ork Gods (but they encompass 4 aspects, cunning and brutal, brutal and cunning) 4 Tau Castes (then came Etherials)... ect.

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What does the emotion of hatred feed into? That hasnt been mentioned yet.

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