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Hello! I've just been putting together my Mk. IV Command Set (Captain & Standard Bearer) and my Mk. IV Apothecary. I sat back pleased to not have gotten glue all over my fingers and the models when I realised something was peculiar about them;



Not sure if the picture there displays it well enough but the Apothecary is, well there's no other way to put it, bigger. In terms of height and bulk he's larger than the other two, which is odd since he is a Forgeworld Mk. IV. He's also a lighter grey which makes me presume it's a Forgeworld Finecast resin/plastic mix thing - I'd heard they'd been trying it out. So I now have a veritable giant next to my other two Mk. IV chaps, which I can explain away by saying that the Apothecary is just a very tall Astartes. It does look really weird besides the Standard Bearer and the Captain though, really odd.

Anyone else come across any other bizarre examples of Forgeworld screwing up scaling on models that are similar?

Soooooo... the fact he's got one foot on a rock and the other on his tiptoes has nothing to do with it then?

Yup because that's just one leg being bent at the knee, doesn't affect the height from his straight leg up to the top of his helm - if I put my foot on my chair I don't suddenly go from 5'10'' to 6'. There is a big size difference when they're next to each other in the flesh (the photo really doesn't show it that well) but it is so noticeable when they're next to each other). Look at where the top of the shoulder pads are on the Command models & on the Apothecary - the top of the Apothecary's shoulder pad is in line with the top of the Standard Bearers helmet.

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:
Yup because that's just one leg being bent at the knee, doesn't affect the height from his straight leg up to the top of his helm - if I put my foot on my chair I don't suddenly go from 5'10'' to 6'.

You do when you stand on your tiptoes, like this model's left leg is. I take it you've never worn high heels then?

Heh no I've never needed to. Both of their left feet, the foot supporting their weight in their poses, are flat on the ground, so neither is on tip-toe. The Captain I wedged a bit of sprue under his foot so he could be sort of standing on something too (didn't want him feeling left out on the 'putting your foot on something' posing), but he's still the same height as the standard bearer.

FW says different...




See how his left heel is raised on both pictures, which will add to his height.

For a moment I was hoping the Apothecary actually was wearing high heels, like that one Primarch in Blanche's drawings. :(

 Lynata wrote:
For a moment I was hoping the Apothecary actually was wearing high heels, like that one Primarch in Blanche's drawings. :(

Khan is the most stylish primarch.

Better living through medical means? He also appears to have a bit of the Captain in him.

Grimtuff wrote:FW says different...
See how his left heel is raised on both pictures, which will add to his height.

Probably because Forgeworld didn't stick my ones together. I went for a stronger stance with the weight on the left foot, a stronger position from which to fire.

Off topic, but what do you reckon to the mini's themselves? They stunning. In the pics on the FW website, the tilt plates are shown as having raptor heads in them, though I don't see them on your pics. Do I take it that it's something the FW guys sculpted in after? The idea of having to file those out put me off buying them, though I'd happily get a full command squad if not!

The eagles are on there to start with, which annoyed me as I was hoping the shields were optional. I melted the eagles off of mine, but apart from that the models are gorgeous. They are well worth the money.

You... melted them? How? There's no visible damage to the surrounding area - what did you use?

I assume we're talking about the eagle on the small shields on their shoulders - I have a medical kitroll thing I inherited from grandfather when he died (no idea why I picked it) but in that is a metal thing which looks like a dental probe but with a tiny (1mm radius) plate on the end. Heated that up on the gas cooker and rubbed out the eagles - it's not perfect but it does the job until I tidy it up later.

Who says space marines all have to be the same height anyway?

Well as they are genetic copies, one may assume that they would be very similar in height, it may be differen for some chapters f they recive thier conscripts from multiple worlds, however unless they came from a extremly low gravity world, the height would still be relatively the same.

Wow. The waste line of the apothecary comes up to the chest of the standard bearer.

Maybe he's just really tall!

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Who says space marines all have to be the same height anyway?

No-one.

Sergeant Pasanius for example from the Ultramarines series.

He's taller. Can't say it would bother me though. He's just that much more badass. Stunning models either way.

I didn't know space marines were identical copies. I thought it was just people injected with geneseed or however they do that stuff. Throw the geneseed in a bowl, add baking soda, stir while simmering. What do I know.

More than ghiest, apparently, because no, they're not 'genetic copies.'

I have these miniatures and there is most definitely some scaling issues.

I don't know if Forgeworld '3-ups' or something similar, but this can happen periodically when scaling the prototype.

With these figures though, the head on the un-helmed marine is too large, or, the powerarmor is too small...

By and large, FW does awesome work trying to make do with the strange sculpting conventions still used by GW caused by early crap sculpting crossed with the limitations of spinning metal.

edit: I can't spell...