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Well... if it was me we may have agreed that about the UN and Obama being ridiculous dribble, but I have been fairly vocal in my opinion that civil war is looming in the US. I just don't think it's going to be over Obama, or the UN. I accept that makes me the focal point of some ridicule. Sometimes reasonable people believe ridiculous things. I'm ok with that.

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Fair, enough, but Civil war for what reason?

Does this judge want to take his slaves out of Texas on the grounds that they are property? Is Abe Linc in the white house again? Is Fort Sumner under attack?

I've been an observor of American politics for a good while now, and everytime a democrat is in office, nonsense like this gets spouted. It happened to Bill Clinton, and it's happening to BO on the grounds that he's black/muslim/enemy of America etc etc

To be fair, Bush got a lot of vitriol his way, a lot of which was below the belt. But American politics seems to have turned nasty, nobody seems to be working for the common good. The only guy in recent years who comes out of this with any credit is John McCain.

This November you will see America in its worst possible light, which is a shame because most ordinary Americans I've met are decent people.

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Fair, enough, but Civil war for what reason?

Does this judge want to take his slaves out of Texas on the grounds that they are property? Is Abe Linc in the white house again? Is Fort Sumner under attack?

I've been an observor of American politics for a good while now, and everytime a democrat is in office, nonsense like this gets spouted. It happened to Bill Clinton, and it's happening to BO on the grounds that he's black/muslim/enemy of America etc etc

To be fair, Bush got a lot of vitriol his way, a lot of which was below the belt. But American politics seems to have turned nasty, nobody seems to be working for the common good. The only guy in recent years who comes out of this with any credit is John McCain.

This November you will see America in its worst possible light, which is a shame because most ordinary Americans I've met are decent people.

That's because most ordinary Americans are pretty much in the center. The overwhelming majority of the country, in fact. But there's no money to be made in the center. Speaking to the center doesn't keep round-the-clock news channels programmed, nor does it generate ad revenue on websites. Nor, increasingly, does it get anyone elected to office, because you'll always have someone more strident calling you an x-in-name-only.
   
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 AustonT wrote:
Well... if it was me we may have agreed that about the UN and Obama being ridiculous dribble, but I have been fairly vocal in my opinion that civil war is looming in the US.
And you have evidence of this, where?

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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Fair, enough, but Civil war for what reason?

Clearly not for the same reasons as the one 150 years ago. BTW it's Sumter with a t. Sumner is a place, just not the place I think you meant. But you actually answered yourself.

American politics seems to have turned nasty, nobody seems to be working for the common good.


There's a growing divide between Americans, it's most obvious in politics but that's not the only place it lives. The problem is that it's not just geographic, or ethnic and it's not just right or left. There are too many of us, in too large of groups that have a different vision of the future and refuse to compromise. Sooner or later a big enough group of Americans will draw the line in the sand and say "Here and no further." politically we proved that in 2010 when we elected a House on a win at all costs platform.

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 AustonT wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Fair, enough, but Civil war for what reason?

Clearly not for the same reasons as the one 150 years ago. BTW it's Sumter with a t. Sumner is a place, just not the place I think you meant. But you actually answered yourself.

American politics seems to have turned nasty, nobody seems to be working for the common good.


There's a growing divide between Americans, it's most obvious in politics but that's not the only place it lives. The problem is that it's not just geographic, or ethnic and it's not just right or left. There are too many of us, in too large of groups that have a different vision of the future and refuse to compromise. Sooner or later a big enough group of Americans will draw the line in the sand and say "Here and no further." politically we proved that in 2010 when we elected a House on a win at all costs platform.

Politicallly - - I'd say we repeal the 17th admendment (allowing direct elections of Senators). Originally, Senators we're elected from their state's legislative body acting as a state ambassators to the federal government. Laws would be passed much differently than they are now as states would have a larger "say" in how tax revenue are distributed.

Socially-- I think there's a growing divide between those who choose to be on welfare (they can work) versus the taxpayers.

But do I think we'll have a civil war... nah.

Too many guns on the streets. It'd be a blood bath on epic proportion and I think most of us intuitively knows that.

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 AustonT wrote:
There's a growing divide between Americans, it's most obvious in politics but that's not the only place it lives. The problem is that it's not just geographic, or ethnic and it's not just right or left. There are too many of us, in too large of groups that have a different vision of the future and refuse to compromise. Sooner or later a big enough group of Americans will draw the line in the sand and say "Here and no further." politically we proved that in 2010 when we elected a House on a win at all costs platform.
There's plenty of reasonable arguments to be made that polarization in politics is mostly illusory:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/01/partisanship-0

I think we can actually blame the media here for the appearance of far more polarization than there actually is. There IS evidence that the illusion of polarization is driving the most extreme elements of each party to vote more often, however, which certainly is effecting the parties--- but it isn't representative of people at large.

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 AustonT wrote:

How is it that a judge, whom I assume know the law.


"Know" the law?


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 Seaward wrote:
Well, constant paranoia about the government's motives is largely how we got - and keep - those freedoms.


That'd make sense if the groups most likely to make lots of noise about civil liberties didn't have a mad on hate for the ACLU.


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 AustonT wrote:
There's a growing divide between Americans, it's most obvious in politics but that's not the only place it lives. The problem is that it's not just geographic, or ethnic and it's not just right or left. There are too many of us, in too large of groups that have a different vision of the future and refuse to compromise. Sooner or later a big enough group of Americans will draw the line in the sand and say "Here and no further." politically we proved that in 2010 when we elected a House on a win at all costs platform.


I'll be blunt with you - what you've typed above is just comical.

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 sebster wrote:


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 AustonT wrote:
There's a growing divide between Americans, it's most obvious in politics but that's not the only place it lives. The problem is that it's not just geographic, or ethnic and it's not just right or left. There are too many of us, in too large of groups that have a different vision of the future and refuse to compromise. Sooner or later a big enough group of Americans will draw the line in the sand and say "Here and no further." politically we proved that in 2010 when we elected a House on a win at all costs platform.


I'll be blunt with you - what you've typed above is just comical.

I'll be blunt back- you live in Austrailia.

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 AustonT wrote:
I'll be blunt back- you live in Austrailia.


So please then do expand. Tell me of the great dividing issues that are going to cause you to take up arms and kill other Americans. Is it gay marriage? Is it that one political party has even more deficit spending than the other political party? Is it the suggestion to increase taxes on the rich by a couple of percent?

Please, do tell. I am keen to learn from an American who is there right now living through the dark days which only bloodshed can end.

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 sebster wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
I'll be blunt back- you live in Austrailia.


So please then do expand. Tell me of the great dividing issues that are going to cause you to take up arms and kill other Americans. Is it gay marriage? Is it that one political party has even more deficit spending than the other political party? Is it the suggestion to increase taxes on the rich by a couple of percent?

Please, do tell. I am keen to learn from an American who is there right now living through the dark days which only bloodshed can end.

It wouldn't be any one issue, I don't think. It would be the general recognition that Reagan's old statement - more unites us than divides us - is no longer true.

It's not the issues anyway, though. It's the utter contempt each side has for the other, and the way in which our political system and our media force you into one of two competing camps.
   
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 Seaward wrote:
It would be the general recognition that Reagan's old statement - more unites us than divides us - is no longer true.


The real problem isn't that the statement isn't true (it isn't true though), the problem is that Reagan was right but many don't want to believe it because they would rather demonize political opposition in order to win elections. It is turning into scorched earth tactics. Winning is all that matters, even if you have to tear the country apart to do it.

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I remember a month or two ago in a similar thread, that somebody (I think it was Auston) laughed at the idea of UN troops imposing Obama's will to curb firearms in the USA.
I remember agreeing with him and replying with this:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah x1000

Civil war? hahahahahahahahah x1000

I need to get to Texas, a career as a judge is on the cards. I can spell Texas and I know the difference between El Paso the town, and El Paso the mexican food company. Do I qualify


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 Seaward wrote:
It wouldn't be any one issue, I don't think. It would be the general recognition that Reagan's old statement - more unites us than divides us - is no longer true.

It's not the issues anyway, though. It's the utter contempt each side has for the other, and the way in which our political system and our media force you into one of two competing camps.


But that's the thing, false media/political narratives about a culture war work only on the most superficial level. It's enough to get people to buy a bumper sticker saying how some other group of people are bad, or to get some people to turn up for a rally, and to get them to turn up to vote (most of them, anyway), but not much more than that.

That kind of myth really isn't enough to get many people out there killing their fellow citizens.

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*Sigh* once again.

These arguments are holy without merit, in any kind of fact, it is pure racism against President Obama, if a white democrat got in (ala Bill Clinton or equivalent). We would not here this kind of rhetoric. If this is the ONLY argument the right wingers can put up "If you elect someone we don't like there will huge danger" then that it is indicative to there point and we truly have nothing to fear I truly pray the President Obama gets in office for four more years, because the alternative I bare not even thinking about, this stuff is scary. The objections the right has against women's rights to abortion, free access to birth control and the right to have ultimate say over their lives and their reproductive capabilities is truly scary. This is just one example of the reality's we will face if the Republicans get in.

I have been raised by parents who believe in equality for all people and that the debates that are going on in the states at the moment have very little traction else were in the world.

This is just a general statement, not an agruement. I simply am saying that if President Obama gets re-elected, nothing "bad" will come of it, the republican alternative is something I think we should all dread thinking about.

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While I don't think civil war is likely; I do agree we're a damn sight more polarized now then I ever remember in my life.


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 Poppabear wrote:
These arguments are holy without merit, in any kind of fact, it is pure racism against President Obama, if a white democrat got in (ala Bill Clinton or equivalent). We would not here this kind of rhetoric.


Bro, they tried to impeach Clinton while claiming he was a rapist complicit in a cover-up murder. I don't think racism works as a sole factor here.

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 Ouze wrote:
While I don't think civil war is likely; I do agree we're a damn sight more polarized now then I ever remember in my life.


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 Poppabear wrote:
These arguments are holy without merit, in any kind of fact, it is pure racism against President Obama, if a white democrat got in (ala Bill Clinton or equivalent). We would not here this kind of rhetoric.


Bro, they tried to impeach Clinton while claiming he was a rapist complicit in a cover-up murder. I don't think racism works as a sole factor here.

The sole factor is that the Republicans are nuttier than a fruitcake... or fruitier than a nutcake which for some reason I like more...
I'm not saying the Democrats aren't crazy... they just hide it slightly better...

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 sebster wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
It wouldn't be any one issue, I don't think. It would be the general recognition that Reagan's old statement - more unites us than divides us - is no longer true.

It's not the issues anyway, though. It's the utter contempt each side has for the other, and the way in which our political system and our media force you into one of two competing camps.


But that's the thing, false media/political narratives about a culture war work only on the most superficial level. It's enough to get people to buy a bumper sticker saying how some other group of people are bad, or to get some people to turn up for a rally, and to get them to turn up to vote (most of them, anyway), but not much more than that.

That kind of myth really isn't enough to get many people out there killing their fellow citizens.

How much of it is actually a myth? I don't recall my fellow citizens being this vitriolic towards each other - not just on TV, mind you, but in daily interaction whenever politics comes up - in my lifetime. The politicians and the pundits have always gone for the throat, but when you've got people in line at the supermarket check-out going at each other...
   
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You have people going at it at the supermarket over politics? You people have too much time on your hands.

The worst I ever saw was a fight when some yankee brought something like 30 items to the '15 items or less' line then started to get uppity.

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 Frazzled wrote:
You have people going at it at the supermarket over politics? You people have too much time on your hands.

The worst I ever saw was a fight when some yankee brought something like 30 items to the '15 items or less' line then started to get uppity.

Saw two last week. First time in my life. Not actual fights, just shouting matches. First one, I was standing in line, trying to buy some goddamn Frosted Mini Wheats, and the dude in front of me was buying like an apple and a Campbell's soup-to-go thing. The cashier made some comment about it, the guy made some joke about times being hard, and then some jackass at the back of the line chimed in with, "That's why we need a permanent change in the White House, y'all." It was on from there. Cashier, who happened to be black, ended up getting called a welfare queen, the jackass at the back of the line was called a hillbilly racist, etc. etc. etc.
   
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There still is no rebellion about to happen. Just a bunch of ignorant fearmongers who think that their inane ramblings actually represent the average person in the US.

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 Seaward wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
You have people going at it at the supermarket over politics? You people have too much time on your hands.

The worst I ever saw was a fight when some yankee brought something like 30 items to the '15 items or less' line then started to get uppity.

Saw two last week. First time in my life. Not actual fights, just shouting matches. First one, I was standing in line, trying to buy some goddamn Frosted Mini Wheats, and the dude in front of me was buying like an apple and a Campbell's soup-to-go thing. The cashier made some comment about it, the guy made some joke about times being hard, and then some jackass at the back of the line chimed in with, "That's why we need a permanent change in the White House, y'all." It was on from there. Cashier, who happened to be black, ended up getting called a welfare queen, the jackass at the back of the line was called a hillbilly racist, etc. etc. etc.


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 Seaward wrote:
First one, I was standing in line, trying to buy some goddamn Frosted Mini Wheats, and the dude in front of me was buying like an apple and a Campbell's soup-to-go thing. The cashier made some comment about it, the guy made some joke about times being hard, and then some jackass at the back of the line chimed in with, "That's why we need a permanent change in the White House, y'all." It was on from there. Cashier, who happened to be black, ended up getting called a welfare queen, the jackass at the back of the line was called a hillbilly racist, etc. etc. etc.


Man, where the F are you shopping. It sounds like a reality show.

Was there a "Honey Boo Boo" anywhere around?

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 Ouze wrote:
While I don't think civil war is likely; I do agree we're a damn sight more polarized now then I ever remember in my life.


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 Poppabear wrote:
These arguments are holy without merit, in any kind of fact, it is pure racism against President Obama, if a white democrat got in (ala Bill Clinton or equivalent). We would not here this kind of rhetoric.


Bro, they tried to impeach Clinton while claiming he was a rapist complicit in a cover-up murder. I don't think racism works as a sole factor here.


That was just an example, any other white democrat could have got in, hence the 'ala'. If a white presiedent was elected instead of Obama, this type of rhetoric would not be seen, we most likely would here other nonsense but that is besides the point.

All this stuff that is being said "If President Obama gets re-elected there will be HUGE problems" or "Another Civil War". This type of stuff is just insulting to basic human intelligence, and again, its just incompetent, compulsive racism. The people who make these claims are probaley the same people who stock pile guns getting ready for the one government "Turns on then".

Did you even read my entire post or just stop at the Bill Clinton example?

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 Poppabear wrote:
. If a white presiedent was elected instead of Obama, this type of rhetoric would not be seen, we most likely would here other nonsense but that is besides the point.
Did you even read my entire post or just stop at the Bill Clinton example?


Yes, there are bigots in this country. Sadly, I cannot deny that or change it.

To say that the vitriol spewed towards Obama on TV and other media by detractors is racially motivated is beyond silly, though. That shows how low your attitude towards the US is, I'm afraid.

I am seeing the EXACT same level of hatred towards Obama from the far right as we were seeing thrown at Bush towards the end of his first and second administrations from the far left.


The Obamacare rhetoric is of the same scale and magnitude as the Blood for Oil rhetoric.

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 Poppabear wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
While I don't think civil war is likely; I do agree we're a damn sight more polarized now then I ever remember in my life.


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 Poppabear wrote:
These arguments are holy without merit, in any kind of fact, it is pure racism against President Obama, if a white democrat got in (ala Bill Clinton or equivalent). We would not here this kind of rhetoric.


Bro, they tried to impeach Clinton while claiming he was a rapist complicit in a cover-up murder. I don't think racism works as a sole factor here.


That was just an example, any other white democrat could have got in, hence the 'ala'. If a white presiedent was elected instead of Obama, this type of rhetoric would not be seen, we most likely would here other nonsense but that is besides the point.

All this stuff that is being said "If President Obama gets re-elected there will be HUGE problems" or "Another Civil War". This type of stuff is just insulting to basic human intelligence, and again, its just incompetent, compulsive racism. The people who make these claims are probaley the same people who stock pile guns getting ready for the one government "Turns on then".

Did you even read my entire post or just stop at the Bill Clinton example?


Bush was called a Nazi, frequently.
Reagan was called Nazi.
Johnson was called: Nazi, Communist (interesting that) and baby killer.
Nixon was called a baby killer.

Ford well, Ford just had two left feet.



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 Ouze wrote:
Man, where the F are you shopping. It sounds like a reality show.

Was there a "Honey Boo Boo" anywhere around?

It was at a Safeway in Alexandria, VA. Not exactly Deliverance territory.
   
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 Poppabear wrote:
That was just an example, any other white democrat could have got in, hence the 'ala'. If a white presiedent was elected instead of Obama, this type of rhetoric would not be seen, we most likely would here other nonsense but that is besides the point.

All this stuff that is being said "If President Obama gets re-elected there will be HUGE problems" or "Another Civil War". This type of stuff is just insulting to basic human intelligence, and again, its just incompetent, compulsive racism. The people who make these claims are probaley the same people who stock pile guns getting ready for the one government "Turns on then".

Did you even read my entire post or just stop at the Bill Clinton example?


I stopped at the Bill Clinton example. That being said, I disagree with you. I think you give too much credit to the current parties to think if there were a white Democrat that the GOP would work reasonably with him (and likely, vice versa). I think the current strategy will remain, for the time being, to depersonalize, dehumanize, and then vote against and stall on every single thing done by the opposing party. They say water is wet, you get a unanimous referendum vote from your party saying you dry off with water after a shower. I think our political system has been veering into "stupid and ridiculous" at a heightened rate of speed, and racism simply is too logical an explanation.

I do agree with you that any sort of actual uprising is highly unlikely, for the same reason Shuma does: I think Americans are too complacent and will simply whine on the internet, no matter how bad it gets. I'm sorry to Godwin this thread, but I feel that in our modern age, we'd twitter all the way to the ovens.

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