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I have a pretty simple personal rule for drinking:

I might have one drink with a meal, a beer or a wine that complements it. That is my personal limit.

If I am drinking for the sake of drinking or "having a good time" it is always in a situation where I am either at my final location (Adepticon party, house, at the lake with my tent) or have access to a designated driver.

If I drink 6 beers over 2 hours I can still legally drive. I checked the chart.

 Amaya wrote:
If I drink 6 beers over 2 hours I can still legally drive. I checked the chart.

You're talking more than 6 beers. You're saying it takes at least two six packs to keep you from driving.

7 is more than 6. In all honesty by 9 I shouldn't be driving.

I don't think I've ever driven after drinking more than 4 over a 90 minute or so span though. I usually wait 2 hours after drinking before doing any driving and I haven't drunk more than a 12 pack over 4 hours or so and driven.

I've seen people get into and out of cars stumbling. I've never been so drunk that my motor skills were that impaired.

 Amaya wrote:
If I drink 6 beers over 2 hours I can still legally drive. I checked the chart.

Your still deluding yourself if you think its not affecting your driving though. And that will depend on what state your in. In NY your DUI anything over .04, with each drink being on average .02.

And Im not trying to be harsh on you I actually appreciate you were willing to stand up and say that yeah you've drank something and drive. Definitely not like I havent. Just some people are so quick to judge without even remembering our own actions.

 Amaya wrote:
7 is more than 6. In all honesty by 9 I shouldn't be driving.

I don't think I've ever driven after drinking more than 4 over a 90 minute or so span though. I usually wait 2 hours after drinking before doing any driving and I haven't drunk more than a 12 pack over 4 hours or so and driven.

I've seen people get into and out of cars stumbling. I've never been so drunk that my motor skills were that impaired.

Were those people passengers or drivers? I used to work at a hotel in New Orleans and the intoxication level of quite a few of the people I saw driving up were enough to make me consider staying as far from the roads as I could.

I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

 Amaya wrote:
I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

Damn, that is scary. He could have run over someone and not even known it

 Amaya wrote:
I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

And Ive seen things like this all the time too. Your point being? If somebody is doing it worse its ok to do it at a lesser amount? Honestly confused.

I had a friend in high school that got gak faced and tried driving home from a bar.
He got cut in half when his car hit a cement bridge rail.

Relapse wrote:

 Amaya wrote:
I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

Damn, that is scary. He could have run over someone and not even known it

Yep. He got a visit from the police.

DutchKillsRambo wrote:

 Amaya wrote:
I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

And Ive seen things like this all the time too. Your point being? If somebody is doing it worse its ok to do it at a lesser amount? Honestly confused.

How did I even imply that?

 DutchKillsRambo wrote:

 Amaya wrote:
I saw a driver pass out in his lawn down the street last week. Got out of the van stumbling, pissed all around, stumbled to the lawn, fell the feth out.

And Ive seen things like this all the time too. Your point being? If somebody is doing it worse its ok to do it at a lesser amount? Honestly confused.

The point is there are more than a few people out there driving who are impaired drivers and don't even know it, whether they're falling down drunk or seemingly able to carry on a conversation and act normal.
Their reaction times are slowed and they don't pay the attention they should to driving. As a result, people get hurt by them.

@Amaya,
Good to see he got busted.

Because you told a story about how you saw someone who was wasted and driving with no other commentary.

Right after you posted that you're willing to drive impaired (in some states mind)

You're right even though what I did was technically legal it was still somewhat of a danger.

All good man when it comes to this topic I am in no way in a position to be preachy if Im coming off that way. If you ask either Grundz or Johhnyboy on this site they'll attest that I used to be a pretty big alcoholic at times with all that entails. But I did finally see how messed up things can get when you drink and drive. Luckily before I ever hurt anyone or had any lasting repercussions. I just remember how easy it is to think your fine when your not. Its crazy really.

AZ has some the stupidest fething DUI laws, we have no minimum BAC instead the language reads 'impaired to the slightest degree'. You don't have to be driving, if you are in possession of your keys while intoxicated you can be arrested for DUI, hell if you decide to be responsible and sleep it off in your car rather then drive drunk then you will be arrested for DUI.