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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:09:16
Subject: Ork Burna as Assault Weapon?
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Been Around the Block
Upper Dublin, PA, USA
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The Burna can be used as a power weapon in cc. Is it a power sword, power axe, power maul? What?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/28 08:36:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:11:11
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Bede19025 wrote:The Burna can be used as a power weapon in cc. Is it a power sword, power axe, power maul? What?
Thanks.
Unusual. Very unusual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:18:10
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Been Around the Block
Upper Dublin, PA, USA
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Yes, and it's not addressed in the FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:20:58
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It doesnt need to be. It is an UNUSUAL power weapon Look them up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:29:20
Subject: Re:Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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The burna has no special rules as an assault weapon, other than power weapon. As such, it's whatever a flamethrower most reminds you of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:37:33
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, yes it does. It is only a power weapon the turn you didnt use it as a flamer. How is that NOT a unique rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/25 23:59:44
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Kansas City, Missouri
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Yes, yes it does. It is only a power weapon the turn you didnt use it as a flamer. How is that NOT a unique rule?
AP 3, end of story look up the entry right below power weapons in the BRB. Much as I would love to cut down termies it won't happen. A better question is can you use the burna in an overwatch then use it as a power weapon in the ensuing assualt because it only says the shooting phase for the rule.
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" I don't lead da Waagh I build it! " - Big-Mek Wurrzog
List of Da Propahly Zogged!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/26 00:42:13
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:Yes, yes it does. It is only a power weapon the turn you didnt use it as a flamer. How is that NOT a unique rule?
AP 3, end of story look up the entry right below power weapons in the BRB. Much as I would love to cut down termies it won't happen. A better question is can you use the burna in an overwatch then use it as a power weapon in the ensuing assualt because it only says the shooting phase for the rule.
No technically it can only be used in the shooting phase as a template weapon.
But I would allow burna's to shoot Overwatch, but if they do they do not get both in the same turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/26 00:43:51
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Agreed, as it specifies that you cannot use them as both a shooting weapon and power weapon in the same turn.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/26 06:50:14
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Kansas City, Missouri
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Happyjew wrote:Agreed, as it specifies that you cannot use them as both a shooting weapon and power weapon in the same turn.
agreed it's a vague rule but one with a clear sense of balance. Some could argue otherwise but I think it is fairest to allow one or the other 15d3 automatic hits before assault starts is a bit much
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" I don't lead da Waagh I build it! " - Big-Mek Wurrzog
List of Da Propahly Zogged!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 08:30:15
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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DeathReaper wrote:No technically it can only be used in the shooting phase as a template weapon.
That's not correct, the burna is listed as a template weapon in both the BYB apendix and the back of the ork codex. Any rules found on the burna page are in addition to that, and none of those revoke any of the rules allowing you to use the burna as regular template weapon. Unless you plan on using it in assault of course.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 21:57:10
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Jidmah wrote:DeathReaper wrote:No technically it can only be used in the shooting phase as a template weapon.
That's not correct, the burna is listed as a template weapon in both the BYB apendix and the back of the ork codex. Any rules found on the burna page are in addition to that, and none of those revoke any of the rules allowing you to use the burna as regular template weapon. Unless you plan on using it in assault of course.
Emphasis on the Shooting Phase, not on Template.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:28:58
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It isn't covered.
It doesn't have unique cc rules.(so isn't merely ap3)
It is a powerweapon with special rules.(so not the choose which.)
Then it say it may be used as template weapon in the shooting phase. It doesn't mention using it as shooty weapon in any other phases. So really overwatch shouldn't be allowed, as it doesn't say it can be a template weapon in the assault phase.
This is all nonsense. ap3 and template, not both in the same turn, is how I wish it to be played. Though a mixture of all the powerweapons would be so sweet, though especially the axe(termies) and maul(vehicles.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:32:32
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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MFletch wrote:It isn't covered. It doesn't have unique cc rules.(so isn't merely ap3)
So you are saying that 'the fact that it is only a power weapon sometimes' is not a unique CC rule? Interesting. But it is covered. It has unique CC rules as it only works as a power weapon sometimes, so its AP3 when it is a CCW.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 05:51:27
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am continually amazed at the people that don't think the Burna is at all 'unusual'... as if all power weapons had different modes of use, and only worked sometimes.... happens all the time I guess....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 08:17:41
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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[quote=]It isn't covered.
It doesn't have unique cc rules.(so isn't merely ap3)
So "only a power weapon, sometimes" isnt a unique rule?
I think you'll find that isnt a very supportable position.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 10:20:45
Subject: Ork Burna as Assult Weapon?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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DeathReaper wrote: Jidmah wrote:DeathReaper wrote:No technically it can only be used in the shooting phase as a template weapon.
That's not correct, the burna is listed as a template weapon in both the BYB apendix and the back of the ork codex. Any rules found on the burna page are in addition to that, and none of those revoke any of the rules allowing you to use the burna as regular template weapon. Unless you plan on using it in assault of course.
Emphasis on the Shooting Phase, not on Template.
The burna is a template assault 1 shooting weapon. All template assault 1 shooting weapons can be used during overwatch. If you claim the burna can't, neither can any template weapon in the game.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 10:24:40
Subject: Ork Burna as Assault Weapon?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Well... it doesn't look like an axe, or a staff, or a maul... it's basically a cutting torch. So that would make it unusual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 16:54:28
Subject: Ork Burna as Assault Weapon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Well... it doesn't look like an axe, or a staff, or a maul... it's basically a cutting torch. So that would make it unusual.
The look isnt important, here. The fact it has unique rules is the key
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