Four US Soldier Arrested for Murdering fellow soldier and plotting Presidential Assasination

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**Happygrunt**

sebster wrote:
$500,000 in funding and military training behind them and they still fethed it up. I mean, Guiteau shot Garfield and he was an escaped mental patient with a pistol and some shoes to his name.

In other news its great they caught these people. It's a shame that two people (maybe three) had to die before that. There seems to be a lot crazies in the US lately, is there any conversation as to why that might be?

Jihadin wrote:
The Shooter at the Sikh Temple never deployed.

If he was he probably would have learned the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.

Didn't the Sikhs kill him where he stood?

**Ouze**

sebster wrote:
$500,000 in funding and military training behind them and they still fethed it up. I mean, Guiteau shot Garfield and he was an escaped mental patient with a pistol and some shoes to his name.

Squeaky Fromme also came to mind. It seems when it comes to major assassinations, "crazy" is almost as effective as "money, motive, preparation, and training" insofar as getting an opportunity to do the deed.

**sebster**

Amaya wrote:
There are and have always been deviants from society in all directions. I don't think the of amount of them fluctuates significantly, just the willingness to commit to an act of violence.

Fair point. To reframe the question then - why does it seem more of the crazies are willing to commit violence right now?

And I doubt the Sikh Temple Shooter would have learned the difference even if deployed and if he did, I doubt he would have cared.

Fair point.

And yeah, it is ironic. Most things about the most extreme end of religion are ironic though, particularly the part where they're all pretty much the same.

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Ouze wrote:
Squeaky Fromme also came to mind. It seems when it comes to major assassinations, "crazy" is almost as effective as "money, motive, preparation, and training" insofar as getting an opportunity to do the deed.

Maybe more effective. There's a lot less points of potential exposure with a crazy loner working alone, if nothing else.

**Jihadin**

why does it seem more of the crazies are willing to commit violence right now?

Crazy becuase they formed a militia or crazy they executed a former battle buddy and his GF? They are use to violence.

**ShumaGorath**

sebster wrote:
$500,000 in funding and military training behind them and they still fethed it up. I mean, Guiteau shot Garfield and he was an escaped mental patient with a pistol and some shoes to his name.

In other news its great they caught these people. It's a shame that two people (maybe three) had to die before that. There seems to be a lot crazies in the US lately, is there any conversation as to why that might be?

Fox news and the internet.

**Jihadin**

Possible third was one wife that died. He recieved 500K life insurnace. Used to fund the militia. Good money say the US Army going through a tattoo check

**Bran Dawri**

One thing, isn't luring two people out into the forest with the express purpose of killing them premeditated murder, instead of the manslaughter they're being charged with?

Or is only the guy who's going to testify against his former buddies being charged with manslughter and the rest with murder?

**Easy E**

Jihadin wrote:
They be on the same wing as Manning. Busting big rocks into little rocks on Thursday.

Kind of sad that Bradley manning is lumped in to the same bucket as these jokers.

Also, someone had been watching too much G.I. Joe or James Bond when they came up with the group's name. I mean seriously, F.E.A.R.? What is this, a 1980's Saturday Morning cartoon show villain?