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2012/08/28 16:11:52
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Tom Smith, GOP Senate Candidate: Pregnancy From Rape Similar To 'Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock'
Trying to distance himself from the "legitimate rape" comment that Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) made last week, Pennsylvania Senate candidate Tom Smith (R) stirred up further controversy by comparing a pregnancy caused by rape to "having a baby out of wedlock."
Smith said Monday at the Pennsylvania Press Club that although he condemns Akin's comment, he agrees with Akin that abortion should be banned without any exceptions, including for rape and incest victims. Pressed by a reporter on how he would handle a daughter or granddaughter becoming pregnant as a result of rape, Smith said he had already "lived something similar to that" in his family.
"She chose life, and I commend her for that," he said. "She knew my views. But, fortunately for me, I didn't have to ... she chose the way I thought. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't rape."
When a reporter asked Smith to clarify what kind of situation was similar to becoming pregnant from rape, the candidate responded, "Having a baby out of wedlock."
He added, "Put yourself in a father's position. Yes, it is similar."
Smith's comment comes at an inconvenient time for Republicans, who have been scrambling to distract voters from the firestorm of controversy over Akin's comment last week. Addressing the subject of an abortion exception for rape victims, Akin said that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely become pregnant because "the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down."
Smith, who is challenging incumbent Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) in the November election, told reporters that he does not agree with Akin's remark at all. "He should have never said anything like that," Smith said.
UPDATE: 8:45 p.m. --
Megan Piwowar, a spokeswoman for Smith, clarified on Monday evening that the candidate's comments were misunderstood and that the "out of wedlock" pregnancy in his family was not his daughter's.
"Tom Smith is committed to protecting the sanctity of life and believes it begins at conception," she said in a statement. "While his answers to some of the questions he faced at the Pennsylvania Press club may have been less than artful, at no time did he draw the comparison that some have inferred. When questioned if he was drawing that comparison, Tom's answer was clear, 'no, no, no.' Tom was speaking to the difficult decision faced by his family, not the nature of his daughters conception.”
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2012/08/28 16:15:33
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
And yet, somehow, Republicans still try to claim with a straight face that they aren't against women.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2012/08/28 18:35:24
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Melissia wrote: And yet, somehow, Republicans still try to claim with a straight face that they aren't against women.
Vs. the party that kills females on demand. Gotcha.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2012/08/28 18:37:18
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Frazzled wrote: Vs. the party that kills females on demand. Gotcha.
Uhm.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/08/28 18:43:39
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Im Reading "Mothers of Invetion" about women during the confederacy. It sounds as if the republicans want to bring us back to that. Where the feminine sphere is the household.
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2012/08/28 18:44:23
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Frazzled wrote: Vs. the party that kills females on demand. Gotcha.
Uhm.
Reality sucks doesn't it. Try not to get holier than thou about parties.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2012/08/28 18:45:33
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
I'm fairly certain that the party that supports the death penalty the strongest is the Republican one.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/08/28 18:45:33
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
hotsauceman1 wrote: Im Reading "Mothers of Invetion" about women during the confederacy. It sounds as if the republicans want to bring us back to that. Where the feminine sphere is the household.
So get off the high horse. Thats what abortion really means. Now I don't really care because of that whole "ihatepeople" thing but at least I am honest about it.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 18:51:22
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Frazzled, Thats The wiener Dogs talking, not you, they have taken control of your mind.
But really, can we just may IDK forget about the election? maybe hve a nice Sip if Sweet Tea?
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2012/08/28 18:54:24
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2012/08/28 18:54:41
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
hotsauceman1 wrote: Frazzled, Thats The wiener Dogs talking, not you, they have taken control of your mind.
But really, can we just may IDK forget about the election? maybe hve a nice Sip if Sweet Tea?
Sweet tea good!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 19:14:27
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Logic would dictate that there is approximately a 50% chance of those pregnancies to result in a female. Of course then half of them would be male...which leads us to if something is composed of equal parts misandry and misogyny isn't it neutral?
Logic would dictate that there is approximately a 50% chance of those pregnancies to result in a female. Of course then half of them would be male...which leads us to if something is composed of equal parts misandry and misogyny isn't it neutral?
But he said half of all future women. Thats a vast quantity of abortions.
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog
2012/08/28 19:20:21
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
or equally sexist. Of course abortion for gender selection is permitted by the no holds party, vs. the all holds party which wouldn't abort anything except maybe the Kennedy clan for any reason including demonic infestation.
"Ok like so if what if it was the spawn of Satan. Would it be ok then? "
"Er...uh..."
"You do believe in the Devil don't you? You're not some sort of atheist are you? "
"Er...uh..well maybe some exceptions."
"BABY KILLER!!!!"
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 19:20:40
Subject: Re:GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Melissia wrote: And yet, somehow, Republicans still try to claim with a straight face that they aren't against women.
Vs. the party that kills females on demand. Gotcha.
lol
how do you expect anyone to even respond to this?
INFANTICIDE!
Put their fingers in their ears and start mouthing 'nanananana!' It always worked for me.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 19:22:18
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
We can't let women have control over their bodies! If we did, they might stop making babies! What if they stopped making female babies? Oh god! We can't let them do that!
2012/08/28 19:23:47
Subject: Re:GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
We can't let women have control over their bodies! If we did, they might stop making babies! What if they stopped making female babies? Oh god! We can't let them do that!
Or all females stop having sex with the males.......
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2012/08/28 19:27:56
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
LoneLictor wrote: We can't let women have control over their bodies! If we did, they might stop making babies! What if they stopped making female babies? Oh god! We can't let them do that!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 19:28:04
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
Next thing we know someone is advocating that condoms be banned. Oh wait ...
I think (hope) most people would agree that termination of unborn biomass isn't exactly the same as extinguishing an actual living, sentient being.
Coincidentally, abortion, as per your own laws, is not performed past a certain point of development.
Comparing abortion to "killing women" is really no different from trying to prevent people from masturbating.
2012/08/28 19:29:04
Subject: Re:GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
We can't let women have control over their bodies! If we did, they might stop making babies! What if they stopped making female babies? Oh god! We can't let them do that!
Or all females stop having sex with the males.......
You know... there's a greek poem called Lysistrata... the original penthouse letters...
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2012/08/28 19:32:58
Subject: Re:GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
I think (hope) most people would agree that termination of unborn biomass isn't exactly the same as extinguishing an actual living, sentient being.
Coincidentally, abortion, as per your own laws, is not performed past a certain point of development.
And under SCOTUS, once science gets that viability down to the cell:
1) The state will have a compelling state interest in protecting the life of the BABY.
2) We're ready for some right and proper clone wars. Next stop. The Galaxy!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/08/28 19:33:31
Subject: GOP Senate Candidate compares out-of-wedlock births to rape pregnancy
I reckon its only slightly better for American girls than the Iranian ones.
I hope that's not the only reason my younger, more attractive Californian missus moved over here with....
gak!
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
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