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I don't understand

You must do 2 separate rolls?

So..when you want to play a game..first you roll for who pick the table side...and the you roll for who deploys and goes first?

Or you just roll once and who wins pick the deployment zone(table side) and also has the first turn?

Correct, because terrain is deployed as part of the game. The reason for this is fortifications.

Here's the steps, rather simply:

1. Roll deployment type
2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
4a. Agree with your opponent on where terrain should be deployed.
4b. If no agreement can be made, roll a d3 in each of the 2x2s on the board. Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.
5. Roll mission type
6. Deploy mission objectives
7. Roll off to decide who deploys/starts first.
8. The second turn player may seize the initiative.
9. Start the game.

It seems long, but it makes for a balanced game, and it's faster once you and your opponent both understand it.

Roll for Mission
Roll for deployment type
ROLL OFF for table side
set up terrain
ROLL OFF for set up first/go first privlages
Steal innitiative
Proffit!

So yes you roll off for table sides and then roll off again for set up go first privlages!


Damn it Ninja'd!!!

This would make alot more sense if the Terrain was already set before you rolled for sides.

That way you dont get screwed on table side roll. One side is ALL WOODS the other side is empty. You are a foot slogging list and your opponent is a gunline guard. You roll off and HE gets the forest side......Pack up now! This way you can sorta balance the terrain so one side isnt "Better" than the other and hoping for the "GOOD" side.

Then you should add a bit of strategy to your placing terrain Now you just build to what you think your best layout would be, rather than planning for if you fail the roll and putting some good terrain on his side too.

Fragile wrote:
Then you should add a bit of strategy to your placing terrain Now you just build to what you think your best layout would be, rather than planning for if you fail the roll and putting some good terrain on his side too.

It means you cna place your fortification in your deployment zone, if you want, so you can make use of it - as opposed to it ending up giving your opponent a literal points advantage on a D6 roll.

Oh yeah.....That too!

Dooley wrote:
Roll for Mission
Roll for deployment type
ROLL OFF for table side
set up terrain
ROLL OFF for set up first/go first privlages
Steal innitiative
Proffit!

So yes you roll off for table sides and then roll off again for set up go first privlages!

Damn it Ninja'd!!!

Not quite. You have rolling for mission as the first step, whereas Shadelkan has it as step 5.

 Shadelkan wrote:
1. Roll deployment type
2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
4a. Agree with your opponent on where terrain should be deployed.
4b. If no agreement can be made, roll a d3 in each of the 2x2s on the board. Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.
5. Roll mission type
6. Deploy mission objectives
7. Roll off to decide who deploys/starts first.
8. The second turn player may seize the initiative.
9. Start the game.

Also, when do you roll for Night Fighting?

Night Fighting is rolled for prior to deployment.

Happyjew wrote:
Night Fighting is rolled for prior to deployment.

Any idea which (if either) of the above sequences is correct, and, if so, when in the sequence Night Fighting would be rolled? If not, do you have any suggestions on what the correct sequence might be?

2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
[...]
4b.[...]Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.

This is so absurd, ridiculous, gakky...

What the hell is the point in choosing any side above the other when no terrain and no objectives are on the board? oO

 Ghenghis Jon wrote:

Happyjew wrote:
Night Fighting is rolled for prior to deployment.

Any idea which (if either) of the above sequences is correct, and, if so, when in the sequence Night Fighting would be rolled? If not, do you have any suggestions on what the correct sequence might be?

The game summary on 424 spells it out rather nicely for you.

Night Fighting on pg 124 states you roll before Deployment

 -Nazdreg- wrote:

2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
[...]
4b.[...]Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.

This is so absurd, ridiculous, gakky...

What the hell is the point in choosing any side above the other when no terrain and no objectives are on the board? oO

edited: Made a balls of this.
You choose sides before placing terrain. If you picked sides after terrain was placed then one side may have better cover, choosing which side can prevent your vehicles being corralled through lots of difficult/dangerous terrain or can put your footslogging list in cover all the time. If you are building an uber corner of the board up to hide behind, your opponent can do the same or put crap terrain in to break up your plan.

 liturgies of blood wrote:

 -Nazdreg- wrote:

2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
[...]
4b.[...]Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.

This is so absurd, ridiculous, gakky...

What the hell is the point in choosing any side above the other when no terrain and no objectives are on the board? oO

Cos one side may have better cover, choosing which side can prevent your vehicles being corralled through lots of difficult/dangerous terrain or can put your footslogging list in cover all the time. The last game I played there was raised terrain that I chose to set up long fangs in. It allowed a great vantage of the board.

The point he was making is that at the point you roll to choose sides, there is no terrain on the table.
You can't choose the side with the best cover if there is no cover on the table yet.

Fragile wrote:
Night Fighting on pg 124 states you roll before Deployment

So after generating random Psychic powers?

 Ghenghis Jon wrote:

Fragile wrote:
Night Fighting on pg 124 states you roll before Deployment

So after generating random Psychic powers?

Yes.

 -Nazdreg- wrote:

2. Roll off to pick which side to deploy
3. Starting with the winner of the roll off, deploy all fortifications in turn.
[...]
4b.[...]Deploy in turns, one at a time, a piece of terrain per result per 2x2; barricades are deployed in threes, counting as 1 piece.

This is so absurd, ridiculous, gakky...

What the hell is the point in choosing any side above the other when no terrain and no objectives are on the board? oO

It makes sure that, given the first step is place fortifications that you get to place the fortification where you want it. If you picked sides AFTER setting up terrain you may hand your opponent a literal points advantage

It also makes terrain placement a game in itself.

It makes sure that, given the first step is place fortifications that you get to place the fortification where you want it. If you picked sides AFTER setting up terrain you may hand your opponent a literal points advantage

It also makes terrain placement a game in itself.

Yeah it is quite obvious that you shouldnt choose sides after having placed your own fortification. But the action of actually choosing a side has no point at all if you look on a blank table, because you have no options from which you can choose. So there is no advantage in winning the roll off.

Apart from being the first person to place terrain, of course.