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**Jihadin**

They latched on the term double tap. You have the official version and a unofficial version. They've yet to considered if Obama possibly lied about OBL body being treated with respect and dignity

**whembly**

Amaya wrote:
I am so confused as to why we are using two phrases interchangeably and yet one of them allegedly means something else as well...

US Infantry slang?

**Frazzled**

Jihadin wrote:
Thats correct. a succesion of fire. You still cannot have a significant pause between shots on the target. Its a double tap.

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Alright in US Infantry term its two shots with a significant pause inbetween.

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So did Obama possibly lie about OBL body being treated with dignity or respect?

Well i intend to do multiple double taps at the range tonight. Tomorrow night I intend to double tap a wine bottle.

**Jihadin**

Seems that way. I stick with my version of double tap. Its safer for me.

**Amaya**

whembly wrote:
Amaya wrote:
I am so confused as to why we are using two phrases interchangeably and yet one of them allegedly means something else as well...

US Infantry slang?

Maybe Army infantry.

**d-usa**

Jihadin wrote:
I see no ones taking up that Obama possible "lie" about "Dignity and respect"

I did take it up.

I mentioned that I would not be surprised if a guy that sells a book on 9/11 wouldn't be inclined to include parts that amount to "we were not that nice to the corpse of the bastard that attacked us" on 9/11.

But again, do you actually believe these two things or are you just making a rhetorical point about accusations without much evidence backing them up?

**Jihadin**

So did Obama lie about OBL body being treated with respect and dignity?

**Amaya**

I don't care if it did or did not. It is a corpse. As long as you don't dangle from a wall, marry it, mutilate it, or eat it I do not care.

**d-usa**

Jihadin wrote:
So did Obama lie about OBL body being treated with respect and dignity?

So it's not just rhetoric then? Gotcha.

**sirlynchmob**

Jihadin wrote:
So did Obama lie about OBL body being treated with respect and dignity?

Well that would really depend on how you define dignity and respect. By obamas definitions OBL probably was treated with dignity and respect. That is really a subjective question with no definitive answer.

**Jihadin**

The answer is yes he lied. OBL body was not treated with dignity or respect. The Seal was sitting on the body. If the helmet cams were still transmitting which they do till completion of the mission then he saw the Seal sitting on the body.

**Amaya**

Care meter not rising.

**whembly**

Amaya wrote:
Care meter not rising.

LOL... didn't even plug it in...

**sirlynchmob**

Jihadin wrote:
The answer is yes he lied. OBL body was not treated with dignity or respect. The Seal was sitting on the body. If the helmet cams were still transmitting which they do till completion of the mission then he saw the Seal sitting on the body.

Only according to you, because only sith lords deal in absolutes. I'm sure others would say that was more dignity and respect than he deserved. If that's the best case you got, then I'll say it, Obama has not lied. You're best example is a speculative case, who's answer really depends on who you ask. Why don't you start a poll on this one and see how the numbers come out. It's not a definitive example of if he lied or not.

**d-usa**

Jihadin wrote:
The answer is yes he lied. OBL body was not treated with dignity or respect. The Seal was sitting on the body. If the helmet cams were still transmitting which they do till completion of the mission then he saw the Seal sitting on the body.

So you do trust a book written by a guy who didn't go through the pentagon and who is using the anniversary of 9/11 to make a profit more than the POTUS and everybody else involved in the mission.

**Jihadin**

Only according to you, because only sith lords deal in absolutes. I'm sure others would say that was more dignity and respect than he deserved. If that's the best case you got, then I'll say it, Obama has not lied. You're best example is a speculative case, who's answer really depends on who you ask. Why don't you start a poll on this one and see how the numbers come out. It's not a definitive example of if he lied or not.

Only to me and the US military. You do not in anyway shape or form mess with a enemy body. Obama was in the operation center watching and pretty much saw it. So to me he lied. As you say Romney lies because he will not release 10 yrs of tax returns.

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So you do trust a book written by a guy who didn't go through the pentagon and who is using the anniversary of 9/11 to make a profit more than the POTUS and everybody else involved in the mission.

I mention earlier I doubt I get the book becuase Penguin is not one of my brands to read. I also mention that my wife will probaly get it for due to one of my old unit involve in the operation was 160th. Yes I was a NightStalker for three years

**sirlynchmob**

Jihadin wrote:
Only according to you, because only sith lords deal in absolutes. I'm sure others would say that was more dignity and respect than he deserved. If that's the best case you got, then I'll say it, Obama has not lied. You're best example is a speculative case, who's answer really depends on who you ask. Why don't you start a poll on this one and see how the numbers come out. It's not a definitive example of if he lied or not.

Only to me and the US military. You do not in anyway shape or form mess with a enemy body. Obama was in the operation center watching and pretty much saw it. So to me he lied. As you say Romney lies because he will not release 10 yrs of tax returns.

Where is this video you keep claiming exists? where's the proof? I only have your word on what happened to the body, which I'm finding more and more reasons to doubt your word.

and no that's not what I said, please actually read what I type If you'd care to discuss what I actually said.

**whembly**

Back to the OP:

Evidently Clint F'n Eastwood is speaking tonight at RNC... I guess I now have to watch that hopoola as he's my favorite actor.

**Jihadin**

Video? I didn't mentioning anything about a video? I mention your video that you posted twice on the same thing. As for not messing with enemy bodies its a General Order for all combat theater and operations. Do Not Mess With the Bodies of the Dead.

Where is this video you keep claiming exists? where's the proof? I only have your word on what happened to the body, which I'm finding more and more reasons to doubt your word.

and no that's not what I said, please actually read what I type If you'd care to discuss what I actually said.

Proof is in the book thats about to come out. Notice no one in the White House is saying anything about this. Didn't I mention on the other thread that this is going to get ugly for a bunch of people? No one going to contradict him from his team. Nor can Obama run on the OBL kill anymore.

**kronk**

whembly wrote:
Back to the OP:

Evidently Clint F'n Eastwood is speaking tonight at RNC... I guess I now have to watch that hopoola as he's my favorite actor.

He and Morgan Freeman are on my bucket list, in a weird sort of way:

**Jihadin**

I want to be 2nd in line for that.....in a weird sort of way..

**whembly**

@sirlynchmob... I don't think we can play this game as both sides can play this all-day-long.

By the throne... they're politicians!

Here's one making rounds:
Obama said: “I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.” That’s what he said in 2008 during the compaign at the plant.

1. On February 13, 2008 Obama said in Janesville : “I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”

2. In June 2008 GM announced that the Janesville plant would stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs in 2010 or sooner.

3. In October 2008 Obama doubled down on his promise to keep Janesville plant open: “As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.”

4. In December 2008 GM idled production of GM SUVs at the Janesville plant. Medium-duty truck assembly continued.

5. In April 2009, four months after Obama was inaugurated, GM idled production of medium-duty trucks.

6. In September 2011, more than two years after Obama was inaugurated, GM reiterates that Janesville plant is on “stand by status.” Auto industry observer David Cole, tells the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel it would be premature to say the Janesville plant will never reopen.

6. Today the GM facility in Janesville still has not been retooled “so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs,” as Obama promised.

Using the same logic you've expoused that Romney lied... then Obama lied.

Note: I don't think it's fair to peg this one on Obama...

See?

**sirlynchmob**

Jihadin wrote:
Video? I didn't mentioning anything about a video? I mention your video that you posted twice on the same thing. As for not messing with enemy bodies its a General Order for all combat theater and operations. Do Not Mess With the Bodies of the Dead.

Where is this video you keep claiming exists? where's the proof? I only have your word on what happened to the body, which I'm finding more and more reasons to doubt your word.

and no that's not what I said, please actually read what I type If you'd care to discuss what I actually said.

Proof is in the book thats about to come out. Notice no one in the White House is saying anything about this. Didn't I mention on the other thread that this is going to get ugly for a bunch of people? No one going to contradict him from his team. Nor can Obama run on the OBL kill anymore.

So you think Obama is lying based on hearsay and speculation? Interesting.

**Jihadin**

So you think Obama is lying based on hearsay and speculation? Interesting.

No more then you on Romney

**whembly**

Jihadin wrote:
I want to be 2nd in line for that.....in a weird sort of way..

Duuuude... I'm in line too! I'll bring the chalupa...who got the brewski?

**Melissia**

whembly wrote:
But let me be concise here:
My successes are MINE
My failures are MINE

And they're also society's successes and failures, as well.
Goddamn this thread has progressed far in the three hours I was asleep.

**Jihadin**

As long as Freeman narration is longer then just one sentence. "This is Grayson and now he's dead" BOOM

**Testify**

Jihadin wrote:
So did Obama lie about OBL body being treated with respect and dignity?

He'd have been foolish not to. Osama Bin Laden isn't exactly popular in the Muslim world, but publically announcing that his body had been mis-treated by servicemen probably wouldn't be the brightest idea.

**TheHammer**

Or, maybe just maybe it didn't go up the chain of command that there was any disrespect shown to the body because it was in no one's best interest for it to get out.

**sirlynchmob**

Jihadin wrote:
So you think Obama is lying based on hearsay and speculation? Interesting.

No more then you on Romney

Nope, Romney's been trapped, he's either lied to the government or he's lying to us. No one is debating that fact. There are countless sources to back this up showing Romney saying many different things about his position at bain. Go watch the videos I've cited, see I have video's and documents which paint Romeny clearly as lying beyond any reasonable doubt. You just have some book you hope gets published soon that you think makes a case that obama may or may not have seen something or other.

see the difference?