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2012/09/02 21:44:34
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
I think Whembly was going for Vermont style or "Constitutional" carry which is permit-less concealed carry. Alaska, Vermont and Arizona are the three states in the US with this style of carry.
I can say from living down there that constitutional carry didn't change gak down there, besides more law abiding citizens being able to carry and saving every one who had a permit some cash in the future. The cartel thugs came over the border with whatever the hell they wanted.
Screaming about the need to disarm people when you have squad sized elements of men with assault rifles (Real fething assault rifles mind you, which is to say a full automatic/select fire weapon in a "intermediate caliber" not what CNN calls an assault rifle which is a semi-auto that looks scary) coming across your border regularly strikes me as more then a little silly.
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2012/09/02 21:49:53
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Screaming about the need to disarm people when you have squad sized elements of men with assault rifles (Real fething assault rifles mind you, which is to say a full automatic/select fire weapon in a "intermediate caliber" not what CNN calls an assault rifle which is a semi-auto that looks scary) coming across your border regularly strikes me as more then a little silly.
Even more silly considering that the BATFE is responsible for an unknown amount of those guns being in the cartels' hands.
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2012/09/02 21:52:41
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
honestly, a better alternative to disarming the public would be to make the consequences for felons being caught with a gun or using a gun in a crime harsher (ie murder is death penalty, and not the death row "we will get to you one day" death penalty) law , that doesnt affect law abiding citizens, and it would be more discouraging to criminals than the current laws in California. also, im a big fan of "shoot first, ask questions later" mantra.
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2012/09/02 21:55:24
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Even more silly considering that the BATFE is responsible for an unknown amount of those guns being in the cartels' hands
Which is just a drop in the bucket compare to what they already brought over the counter past years from US gunstores.
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2012/09/02 22:20:03
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
jordanis wrote: honestly, a better alternative to disarming the public would be to make the consequences for felons being caught with a gun or using a gun in a crime harsher (ie murder is death penalty, and not the death row "we will get to you one day" death penalty) law , that doesnt affect law abiding citizens, and it would be more discouraging to criminals than the current laws in California. also, im a big fan of "shoot first, ask questions later" mantra.
Numerous studies and a simple look at other countries show that that doesn't actually work. If anything there appears to be a counter intuitive effect, but that's probably because more socially liberal countries tend to have lower crime rates to begin with.
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2012/09/02 22:32:30
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
We are already #1 in the world when I comes to locking people up in prison, with nothing really to show for it. Can we focus on being #1 at something else?
2012/09/02 22:55:18
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
d-usa wrote:We are already #1 in the world when I comes to locking people up in prison, with nothing really to show for it. Can we focus on being #1 at something else?
I think the US might be #1 in obesity, too.
2012/09/02 22:59:39
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Even more silly considering that the BATFE is responsible for an unknown amount of those guns being in the cartels' hands
Which is just a drop in the bucket compare to what they already brought over the counter past years from US gunstores.
References please.
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2012/09/02 23:07:10
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
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2012/09/02 23:14:05
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Operations like Fast and Furious make up an almost meaninglessly small amount of cross border gun traffic. Mexico is turning into a failed state and any gun held by its own security aparatus can be purchased by the cartels. The American military can't even keep track of it's own weapon stockpiles, expecting the same of mexico is silly.
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2012/09/02 23:15:12
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Even more silly considering that the BATFE is responsible for an unknown amount of those guns being in the cartels' hands.
Also, thanks for providing the reference, though it entirely fails to back up your inference that the cartels are just walking over here and buying massive amounts of guns from our dealers, instead of stealing them from their own government after said government purchased the firearms from manufacturers and arranged shipping to their country.
Here's how it works: A foreign government fills out an application to buy weapons from private gun manufacturers in the U.S.
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Not at all.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2012/09/02 23:24:36
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
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2012/09/02 23:33:58
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
d-usa wrote: We are already #1 in the world when I comes to locking people up in prison, with nothing really to show for it. Can we focus on being #1 at something else?
Out of all the developed nations the US has highest gun related death rates.
youbedead wrote: maybe you were thinking of states tha tlet you carry concealed without a permit
Okay...how's this?
To use the state I currently live in as an example:
In Tennessee, you can apply for, train and be granted a "carry permit" this allows the granted person to carry a firearm with it's ammunition co-located with it... They call it a Carry Permit, it grants the bearer the ability to concealed carry, or open-carry their firearms around.
Basically, because we dont have "concealed carry permits", and instead have essentially "permits" you can carry legally without a "concealed carry permit" bending things abit there, but it works
2012/09/02 23:58:04
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
youbedead wrote: maybe you were thinking of states tha tlet you carry concealed without a permit
Okay...how's this?
To use the state I currently live in as an example:
In Tennessee, you can apply for, train and be granted a "carry permit" this allows the granted person to carry a firearm with it's ammunition co-located with it... They call it a Carry Permit, it grants the bearer the ability to concealed carry, or open-carry their firearms around.
Basically, because we dont have "concealed carry permits", and instead have essentially "permits" you can carry legally without a "concealed carry permit" bending things abit there, but it works
I think the 'How's this' was in reference to his next statement.
But anyways AZ got it better. Are you over 18, are you not a felon, congratulations here's your gun. You can carry it concealed if you like, oh and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
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2012/09/03 01:51:13
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
youbedead wrote: and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
You don't have to register your gun here, for any reason. As a matter of fact, I don't believe it's possible to register your gun here, if you wanted to.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2012/09/03 03:23:58
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
youbedead wrote: and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
You don't have to register your gun here, for any reason. As a matter of fact, I don't believe it's possible to register your gun here, if you wanted to.
If it was was manufactured outside of AZ then it has a registration number and is connected to you (as it would fall under the jurisdiction of the national gov). Any gun made and sold here doesn't even need a registration number.
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MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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2012/09/03 03:28:51
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
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2012/09/03 04:19:48
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
youbedead wrote: and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
You don't have to register your gun here, for any reason. As a matter of fact, I don't believe it's possible to register your gun here, if you wanted to.
If it was was manufactured outside of AZ then it has a registration number and is connected to you (as it would fall under the jurisdiction of the national gov). Any gun made and sold here doesn't even need a registration number.
Ah yes, the yellow sheet. I wrote up many of these when I worked at the gun store. However this is not registration as such, and only pertains to the original purchaser of the firearm in question. If the sale is made privately then no registration is required; you don't have to inform any part of the government that you have obtained a(nother) firearm. As I said earlier, I don't even think there is a mechanism for doing so.
Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2012/09/03 04:40:46
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
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Concealed Weapons arn't going to dissuade Cartel members, and some of the more hardcore Gang members.
It will dissuade other criminals, who cause the bulk of crime. You know, the small timers.
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2012/09/03 06:23:47
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
youbedead wrote: and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
You don't have to register your gun here, for any reason. As a matter of fact, I don't believe it's possible to register your gun here, if you wanted to.
If it was was manufactured outside of AZ then it has a registration number and is connected to you (as it would fall under the jurisdiction of the national gov). Any gun made and sold here doesn't even need a registration number.
Ah yes, the yellow sheet. I wrote up many of these when I worked at the gun store. However this is not registration as such, and only pertains to the original purchaser of the firearm in question. If the sale is made privately then no registration is required; you don't have to inform any part of the government that you have obtained a(nother) firearm. As I said earlier, I don't even think there is a mechanism for doing so.
Yeah that's what I was getting at, as far as I know private sales are supposed to be registered (at least if sent to another state as its supposed to go through a dealer in that case) but they not. This will obviously change based on you state
H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Balance, playtesting - a casual gamer craves not these things!" - Yoda, a casual gamer.
Three things matter in marksmanship -
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MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
Eric
2012/09/03 08:22:10
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Regardless of what gun you're carrying, I would still suggest the best thing you can do is keep your head down and sprint away in the opposite direction.
Unless of course you're defending your home or workplace, which is a different matter.
That is the kind of talk that allows zombie outbreaks to turn into zombie apocalypses. Sure, putting a bullet into the head of that first infected SOB is traumatic, but it's worth it.
2012/09/03 21:08:19
Subject: A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
I think the 'How's this' was in reference to his next statement.
But anyways AZ got it better. Are you over 18, are you not a felon, congratulations here's your gun. You can carry it concealed if you like, oh and if it was made in AZ you don;t even have to register it, yay.
A few things: you must be 21 to carry a concealed handgun in AZ and the Firearms Freedom Act passed in Arizona and originating in Montana has not been tested, and no firearms manufacturer makes a gun in any state that passed the FFA wit a Made in stamp that allows the owner to bypass the federal check. A legal CCL will allow to bypass that check entirely. You don't have to register anything.
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2012/09/03 21:10:36
Subject: Re:A concealed carry permit holder in Louisiana saved a police officer's life
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I believe you have to be 21 in most states to even own a handgun, much less have a conceal carry permit. So it kinda comes with the territory.
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