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its late nite and i cant sleep.. so i wanna come up with this list for a tournament this Sunday so far it seem good on paper but idk sooo let me know what do you guys think.. and if i need any changes

Hq
CCS
,Ootf,Ac, Camo Cloak,2x plasma gun
=175

Troops
Infantry Platoon
2xplasma gun / ac
chimera ML/HF
IS
GL/AC/meltabomb
IS
GL/AC/Meltabomb
=265

Infantry Platoon
2xplasma gun / ac
chimera ML/HF
IS
GL/AC/meltabomb
IS
GL/AC/Meltabomb
=265

Fast Attack.. i would want more but only got one =[
Vendetta
130

Heavy Support
Basilisk
=125

LRBT
2 HB
LRBT
2PC
=360

LR DEMOLISHER
LC
125
=1500


1500

Ofernandez wrote:
its late nite and i cant sleep.. so i wanna come up with this list for a tournament this Sunday so far it seem good on paper but idk sooo let me know what do you guys think.. and if i need any changes

Hq
CCS
creed,Ootf,Ac, Camo Cloak
=200

Troops
Infantry Platoon ( the idea with the platoon i wanted too either split the platoon too two 20 men squad or combine them into a 40men blob and the commissar is to keep things in order )
PCS
4x flamers,meltabomb
chimera ML/HF
IS
GL/AC/meltabomb/commissar,Pw
IS
GL/AC
IS
GL/AC meltabombs
IS
GL/AC

=425

Vet Squad ( in vendetta)
3x plasma
=115

Fast Attack.. i would want more but only got one =[
Vendetta
130

Heavy Support
Basilisk
=125

LRBT
2 HB
=170

LR Demolisher (out flack with creed effect)
LRBT
2x Dozer blade
= 335

1500

I think i would dump 1 RUSS, add LCs to both and Plasma or MM Spons to Demo. What do the vets do for you riding in your only flyer? You could buy a SWT instead loaded w 1 demo and 2 flammers or MGs. Maybe add PG to your blob. Model PW as Power Axe, I-1 is as good as I-3.

well i could just put the pcs in the vendetta and give them melta guns and the vets in a chimera with 3x plasma with ac or LC i would add the swt but i need two troops and the platoon counts as one
i could take out the camoclock on the ccs

anyways beside the tank
anything i should change or no ?

I really don't think you need to sink all those points into Creed just to get a demolisher in melta range without any support. The CCS has no special weapons. Why? BS 4 is something you want to take advantage of. Chuck a HWT and a sniper on them if you don't want to get them in danger, at least it's hitting on 3s while they're ordering. Not to mention with FOMT and BID requiring LoS from the CCS, you may as well throw out some shots at what you're ordering your other squads to shoot at.

Also, basilisks suck. If possible trade it out for one of the other artillery pieces depending on your local meta.

I'm also not keen on plasma vets in the vendetta. You are aware you have to waste a turn of shooting just to drop them out? Grav cute only works if the vend moves flat out. So if there's ever a decent target for the vendetta, you might end up holding an amazing unit inside the vendetta, wasting their points. If the vend is just for transport and AA, a valk might be better, losing a turn of shooting doesn't make you sad. If you want them to both do things, maybe just put the vets in a chimera and leave the vend's transport unused.

Finally, HB sponsons on the LRBT? Do you really need them? Yet no Hflamer sponsons on the demolisher, which could get a hell of a lot of use.

Edits: A plethora of typos -_-

Basilisks are not as bad as they once were. Especially with the entire blast packing the bunch with the new rule changes as well as the firing within minimum range. I would keep the basilisk. Maybe bring 2 actually.

I agree on skipping out on creed. A simple CCS with LC and the handful of advisors you are interested in. IDK, personally you are putting a ton into a single CCS. For 200 points you can purchase 2X CCS both with LC's and still have enough for those advisors as well as packing a threatening CCS.

Without creed you wont be outflanking those tanks, Which is not necessarily a bad thing. I would either double up on the LRBT's and let the Demolisher roll seperately or drop the 3rd LR altogether and get a vendetta or something else. Mixing hte LRBT and demolisher is not a great idea as they have different targets in mind as well as different ranges. I am liking the LRBT with HB sponsons, I have been running mine like that and they do fairly well.

EDIT: Griddle, I disagree with the HF sponsons on the demolisher, as they cannot be snap fired. And I cannot thnk of many times you want a demolisher sitting still and flame throwing. If it fires and does not kill its target, that target will be mad and will be angrily sprinting at said demolisher.

 UMGuy wrote:
EDIT: Griddle, I disagree with the HF sponsons on the demolisher, as they cannot be snap fired. And I cannot thnk of many times you want a demolisher sitting still and flame throwing. If it fires and does not kill its target, that target will be mad and will be angrily sprinting at said demolisher.

Noted, I forget they can't be snap'd. I rarely take sponsons for anything.

WELL I KINDA CHANGE UP THE LIST ALREADY AND TRIED THIS ONE OUT.. IT WENT PRETTY GOOD..LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS UPDATED LIST