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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 18:42:43
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok so I've read up on 6th edition and follow the forums but I don't have a lot of playing experience in 6th Edition.
Now I don't have any flyers so this is going to be a non-flyer necron build.
HQ
Overlord - 180
- Warsycthe
- Barge
Overlord - 180
- Warsycthe
- Barge
Royal Court #1
Lord - 70
- warsycthe
- mindshackle
- weave
Harbinger of Despair - 60
- Veil
Royal Court #2
Lord - 70
- warsycthe
- mindshackle
- weave
Harbinger of Despair - 60
- Veil
Troops
8x Immortals - 136
8x Immortals - 136
Elites
C'tan - 225
- pyshards
- moulder of worlds
Heavy Support
Monolith - 200
A.Barge - 90
A.Barge - 90
Total - 1497
Now this lists works on the assumption that the C'tan can be teleported through the monolith and that the monolith can teleport a unit the turn it deepstrikes onto the table.
If that isn't right then I would appreciate someone telling me as my list needs to be re thought out then.
Ok now then the idea of this list is that the monolith stays in reserve and then deepstrikes onto the table and teleports the C'tan to it. While the Barges move towards the enemy the immortals port around the board shooting vulnerable units until they have to capture an objective.
The Immortals will have gauss, the lord is there to tank shots as well as make the unit capable of assault if it gets assaulted.
I like the idea of using a C'tan in my army(makes it more fluffier to me), and this is the best use I can think of for it, since the monolith allows it to cover a lot of ground quickly. But if what I assume between the monolith and C'tan relationship is incorrect then I will have to remove him/re-equip it.
Alright so what do you guys think of this list? Is it too weak for 6th? Somewhat worried about fliers but I do like the fact that I can just rush/teleport behind them once they are on the board.
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 21:27:11
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Punisher wrote:Now this lists works on the assumption that the C'tan can be teleported through the monolith and that the monolith can teleport a unit the turn it deepstrikes onto the table.
If that isn't right then I would appreciate someone telling me as my list needs to be re thought out then.
My understanding is that it cannot, but they may have slipped in some rules change in 6th that makes it work. Best bet is to ask over on YMDC.
The Dimensional Corridor ability is used 'at the beginning of the movement phase'. At the begining of the movement phase, the Monolith is not on the table yet. There are very few abilities that can be used before actually arriving on the table.
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"Ignorance is bliss, and I am a happy man."
"When you claim to be a purple unicorn, and I do not argue with you, it is not because I agree with you."
“If the iron is hot, I desire to believe it is hot, and if it is cool, I desire to believe it is cool.”
"Beware when you find yourself arguing that a policy is defensible rather than optimal; or that it has some benefit compared to the null action, rather than the best benefit of any action." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 02:47:31
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
Mandragora, Eastern Fringe
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NEVER DEEP STRIKE A MONOLITH. It's about as bad as deep striking a Land Raider. Start with it on the board and pull the C'tan in, or better yet, start with it on the board.
Also, you would not be able to pull the C'Tan through the Eternity Gate after the Monolith deep strikes as per Eternity Gate rules.
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Sautekh Dynasty 5000 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 07:08:42
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I think only units with the 'Necron' rule could go through the portal, or am I confusing old crons with new again?
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Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty - 15k
Iron Hands - 12k
The Shadewatch - 3k
Cadmus Outriders - 4k
Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 09:51:26
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Focused Fire Warrior
Norwich,UK
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I dont think the "necron" rule exists anymore just got replaced my animation protocols not sure about the ctan tho dont have my dex on me. tho i agree with not deep striking the monolith it can mishap which i think is silly it should get the same rules as the drop pods. tbh i dont like monoliths or the ctan for that matter but i wont go on about that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 16:03:40
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ya, in the new dex the C'tan can use the portal just fine as the only restriction seems to be it can't portal vehicles.
As for not deepstriking, I am not sure why it would be such a bad idea seeing that so long as you keep yourself a reasonable distance away, you can get the first strike on your opponent before he can react to the monolith.
But it does seem that for 1 turn at least my ctan can't portal through the monolith.. Which sucks.
Now however I do have another slightly related question, and that is whether or not a independent Character can Join in a unit with a C'tan.
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 20:59:41
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
Mandragora, Eastern Fringe
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ICs can join any friendly unit they want.
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Sautekh Dynasty 5000 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 22:41:38
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Great Deceiver wrote:ICs can join any friendly unit they want.
Not so much. Check your BRB for all the ins and outs, but the short answer here is no, not with C'tan
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"Ignorance is bliss, and I am a happy man."
"When you claim to be a purple unicorn, and I do not argue with you, it is not because I agree with you."
“If the iron is hot, I desire to believe it is hot, and if it is cool, I desire to believe it is cool.”
"Beware when you find yourself arguing that a policy is defensible rather than optimal; or that it has some benefit compared to the null action, rather than the best benefit of any action." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 22:48:19
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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foolishmortal wrote:Great Deceiver wrote:ICs can join any friendly unit they want.
Not so much. Check your BRB for all the ins and outs, but the short answer here is no, not with C'tan
Thanks I saw that too that he can't join when I re-read. For the reason its cause the C'tan is a monstrous creature if anyone is still wondering.
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 23:00:30
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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close, an IC could join a squad of Canoptek Spyders, but not a C'tan. Basically ICs can't join a non- IC unit that is always a single model.
If they made C'tan into ICs in 6th and I missed it, I withdraw my objection
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"Ignorance is bliss, and I am a happy man."
"When you claim to be a purple unicorn, and I do not argue with you, it is not because I agree with you."
“If the iron is hot, I desire to believe it is hot, and if it is cool, I desire to believe it is cool.”
"Beware when you find yourself arguing that a policy is defensible rather than optimal; or that it has some benefit compared to the null action, rather than the best benefit of any action." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 23:33:45
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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foolishmortal wrote:close, an IC could join a squad of Canoptek Spyders, but not a C'tan. Basically ICs can't join a non- IC unit that is always a single model.
If they made C'tan into ICs in 6th and I missed it, I withdraw my objection 
Naw your right, didn't think about that spyder example though. And don't worry C'tan isn't a independent character, he is a character though and can issue challenges
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 23:38:58
Subject: Necron 1500pts
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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and gets Precise Shots and Precision Blows, or whatever the heck they are called. A small bonus, but every little bit helps
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"Ignorance is bliss, and I am a happy man."
"When you claim to be a purple unicorn, and I do not argue with you, it is not because I agree with you."
“If the iron is hot, I desire to believe it is hot, and if it is cool, I desire to believe it is cool.”
"Beware when you find yourself arguing that a policy is defensible rather than optimal; or that it has some benefit compared to the null action, rather than the best benefit of any action." |
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