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HQ:

Librarian - Terminator Armor, Storm Shield, Gate of Infinity, Null Zone (140 pts)
Lysander - (200 Pts)

Elites:

Sternguard Veteran Squad x7 - (225 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Combi-Flamer, Power Weapon
-Veterans w/2x Combi-Flamer, 4x Combi-Melta

Terminator Assault Squad x5 (200 Pts)
-5x TH/SS

Troops:

Scout Squad x10 - (220 Pts)
-Sergeant Telion w/Camo Cloak
-Scouts w/9x Sniper Rifles, Camo Cloaks

Tactical Squad x10 - (215 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Boltgun, Power Fist, Teleport Homer
-1x Marine w/Melta
-1x Marine w/Multi-Melta

Tactical Squad x10 - (200 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Plasma Pistol, Chainsword, Teleport Homer
-1x Marine w/Flamer
-1x Marine w/Missile Launcher

Fortification:

Aegis Defence Line w/Quad Gun (100 Pts)

Total - 1500


So the idea is to have Lysander with the Termies in reserve. Libby will be with the sternguard so I can GoI the special ammo. Tac squads will deploy where needed and will act as a beacon for the termies when they arrive (hopefully). Scouts can combat squad and infiltrate, one group with telion on the quad gun and the other somewhere else.

Hoping this will stand as a decent all comers list.

I may be mistaken but Lysander's special is bolter drill. I think I would switch the lineup a bit. Try to get the sternguard to 10 man and lose all the combi-weapons. Attach Lysander to the Sternguard and the Librarian to the Terminators. Then look over the new spells and pick the one that best supports the termies. (FNP would be kind of nice.)

DAaddict wrote:
I may be mistaken but Lysander's special is bolter drill. I think I would switch the lineup a bit. Try to get the sternguard to 10 man and lose all the combi-weapons. Attach Lysander to the Sternguard and the Librarian to the Terminators. Then look over the new spells and pick the one that best supports the termies. (FNP would be kind of nice.)

I thought about this too. Only thing I was worried about was mobility. Suppose I could simply not bring Lysander, fill out the sternguard and add a couple more termies.

Maybe even add epistolary and add the avenger instead of null zone?

DAaddict wrote:
I may be mistaken but Lysander's special is bolter drill. I think I would switch the lineup a bit. Try to get the sternguard to 10 man and lose all the combi-weapons. Attach Lysander to the Sternguard and the Librarian to the Terminators. Then look over the new spells and pick the one that best supports the termies. (FNP would be kind of nice.)

Don't you have to roll randomly for the 'new' powers?

 Jstncloud wrote:

DAaddict wrote:
I may be mistaken but Lysander's special is bolter drill. I think I would switch the lineup a bit. Try to get the sternguard to 10 man and lose all the combi-weapons. Attach Lysander to the Sternguard and the Librarian to the Terminators. Then look over the new spells and pick the one that best supports the termies. (FNP would be kind of nice.)

Don't you have to roll randomly for the 'new' powers?

Yes, but if you roll poorly you can opt to choose the primaris power -- although there's not primaris power that give FNP from what I can tell.

Changed the list quite a bit:

Librarian - Terminator Armor, Storm Shield, Gate of Infinity, Null Zone (140 pts)

Elites:

Sternguard Veteran Squad x10 - (295 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Bolt Gun, Power Fist
-Veterans w/2x Combi-Flamer, 2x Combi-Melta

Terminator Assault Squad x8 (320 Pts)
-5x TH/SS

Troops:

Scout Squad x10 - (230 Pts)
-Sergeant Telion w/Camo Cloak
-Scouts w/8x Sniper Rifles, 1x ML and Camo Cloaks

Tactical Squad x10 - (215 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Boltgun, Power Fist, Teleport Homer
-1x Marine w/Melta
-1x Marine w/Multi-Melta

Tactical Squad x10 - (200 Pts)
-Sergeant w/Plasma Pistol, Chainsword, Teleport Homer
-1x Marine w/Flamer
-1x Marine w/Missile Launcher

Fortification:

Aegis Defence Line w/Quad Gun (100 Pts)

Total - 1500

Libby gets to mob around with the Sternguard, Scouts/Telion pick off characters and flyers (hopefully), Termies chill in reserve and teleport where needed

Lysander gets the sternguard a third more hits. 3 extra sternguard would have the same effect.
Then will the sternguard fire their bolters every turn?
Whilst we are at it combat tactics is pretty awesome.
Doesn't prescience do as much as the bolter drill?
Enough Lysander bashing.

The universe is not ready for foot slogging marines.
You can not force yourself on the enemy and just not mobile enough. There are methods to make infantry lists work but they are very different than the above.