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I have been thinking that there is going to be a significant problem coming up in regards to "Others". Simply put in regards to representation.

It is not just that "Other" has a significanty smaller number of players signed up than Order. It has to do with who Order and Choas will often be fighting....namely each other rather than forces of order.

Nids and Tau are two of the least played armies in 40K at present due to thier resounding uncompetiveness in 5th edition. Most stores I have frequented in WI only have 1 token nid or tau player. Leaving Necrons as the only significant player base in our lot.

So what is going to happen when a player goes to his LFGS to play a game to count towards the campaign. If it is Disorder, he won't have a problem finding an Order Player...IG, SM, SW, and GK are all very popular codices with large player bases. He won't likely find a Tau or Nid player, though he might find a Necron Player. More than likely a Chaos Player will then be playing against and an Order force...meaning that the Victory Points would be going to either Chaos or Order (in the case of a loss).

How about Order: Again, traitor guard, "counts as marines", dark eldar, orcs and Chaos are still popular choices...with Chaos becoming the flavor of the month come October with thier new Codex release. So more than likely they will be facing Disorder in battle, meaning the Victory Points will be going to either Order or Disorder (in the case of a loss).

For "Other" the VP will go to "Other" if we win or to either Disorder or Order if we lose.

The net effect is that more VP are currently available to the forces of "Order" and "Disorder" than to "Other".

I would suggest breaking up Order a bit and pushing one or 2 of thier armies over to the "Other Side" so that results can be more evenely distributed.

I understand your reasoning wyomingfox. However, I think the quick and easy fix is to just give the 'Other' forces a handicap, so to say. Remember that this is not a large scale tournament, where everything is either a win or loss, but Mod's are gathering the numbers. If one faction is having a real hard time early, I'm sure they can introduce some events or something to help that side out, and at least keep the campaign sporting.

Also, the only faction that could really be split off fluff wise would be Eldar. The tend to have their own motives for doing things, and they are the only non-imperial army on the Order side. Unfortunately, its pretty late in the game to completely switch over a whole army to a different faction (each person has to be notified, get in touch with new commanders, figure out they shouldn't be fighting their friends, rewrite a bunch of fluff [and who wants to be called Matt Ward? that might be too impossible to bare] etc.). Also, that means Eldar and Necrons would be on the same side, that would get a little....uneasy.

Besides, looking at the number of signups, the 'Other' forces aren't really that far behind the Disorder ones.

Dont worry guys. your looking at is as a 3 way fight when its not.
The mechanics that have been set out in the admin packet are very clear. I cannot go into detail on them but I will say this...

The main fight is between Order and Disorder.
Each of the 3 "other" armies have their own agenda which they achieve or fail depending on their own contributions.
Those goals effect the fight between Order and Disorder. But our victory comes from achieving our own goal.

 keltikhoa wrote:
Dont worry guys. your looking at is as a 3 way fight when its not.
The mechanics that have been set out in the admin packet are very clear. I cannot go into detail on them but I will say this...

The main fight is between Order and Disorder.
Each of the 3 "other" armies have their own agenda which they achieve or fail depending on their own contributions.
Those goals effect the fight between Order and Disorder. But our victory comes from achieving our own goal.

Thanks for fielding that kelt. I am sick as a dog today, I just went back to bed till 1.

And kelt has the truth of it. It is hopefully quite balanced, and if one side turns out to have terrible mechanics, it can always be altered slightly towards the end of the campaign. To be honest, if I had to forecast a victory for one side, it'd be Tau. Disorder would be my second call.

get well soon motyak!

Hey, got another question. I think you gave a reply to something similar, but maybe you can put the answer in the OP.

This is the question that I sent Soundwave, and he responded that I should go ahead and post it here:


"So, found out that Dr. Temujin are both at the same gaming club....but we both play necrons, and probably are planning on invading the same worlds.

So, if we can't find other players, how should we proceed if we get a necron vs necron game (also applicable to any other faction vs same faction game)? I don't want to auto score points for 'Other' if we play each other, and I definately don't want to score points for say 'Disorder' if we decide one of us goes "short circuit" on our logic. I assume we could just not post the game, but that kinda makes the game feel insignificant."

How would you want us to record such a game?"

I think it is up to you if you decide to use a game for the campaign or not, before the game starts. It doesn't cheapen the game you two will play, you'll still be two friends playing a fun game of warhammer, forging a rock hard narrative (ha), I don't think that it is made insignificant because it isn't part of the campaign, you two will still have fun.

If you did play it to affect the campaign though, one of your sides would have to count as order or disorder (chosen before the game) and the other would be a necron force as normal.

Ok, works for me, thanks for the response.

i have the packet, woop.. thanks, its well put together.

i have a desert mat and for that reason i chose Korsk to deploy my guardsmen regiment.

i need a sig tag, who do i have to ask nicely..

thanks again.

rustproof wrote:
i have the packet, woop.. thanks, its well put together.

i have a desert mat and for that reason i chose Korsk to deploy my guardsmen regiment.

i need a sig tag, who do i have to ask nicely..

thanks again.

Xzerios is the man to ask, tell him what you want in this format

Army Name
Army Logo (link prefered, or description of what you want)

Army Name color Overlay
Army Name color Highlight

Army Logo color Overlay (optional)
Army Logo color Highlight

thanks man!

So... Do we have a start date?

IGNORE THAT. Start date is still coming, sorry for the false start, that was entirely my bad.

I have a game coming up later today, should I jest hold onto the BatRep until we start?

 motyak wrote:

 The_Solitaire wrote:
Just thought of something, not sure if it has been brought up or not, what happens if two Dakka members play but they are in different systems/planets to each other?

Their armies would have to be REALLY good shots.

That answer isn't helpful, they can't battle if they aren't on the same planet, however we don't want anyone to miss out, so just dice off between you, and the winner will be the one who the battle counts for.

For example, I (Order) play you (disorder, for the sake of the example anyway). I'm on Perdus, you are on Volkh I. 1-3 its on Perdus, 4-6 hits on Volk I. We roll a 3, so its on Perdus. You then win the game, so it'll count as a loss to me (and through me, Order) on Perdus, and it won't affect Volkh I.

Does that help clear things up?

Yep, thanks for the clarification

I have a game coming up later today, should I jest hold onto the BatRep until we start?

This is perfectly fine Good luck on your battle!

How do we know what System or whatever we're in?

Pick a system, talk to that warzone commander, see what he/she (I don't think we have any female commanders, but who knows who is typing at the keyboard) says, there may be plenty of people already in there, or they may love your help, and they'll suggest a planet

Still waiting for the great war to begin!

Well you need only wait until Monday the 24th! That is right, the start date is set, and battle is soon to be joined!

For the greater good!

Down with the enemies of man! Let the blood begin to flow!

We will rule the galaxy once more.

By the blood of my People, the Emperor shall know of our deed.

For the Imperium!

Florn, head your forces for Kabaal!

Though we are few in number, our light will shine brightest of all.
For the Tau'Va!

An example batrep is up, apologies, I had forgotten to upload it when I did it. I hope it helps. Keep in mind that its an example of the bare minimum. It is as light on information as you are allowed to get, but you are always allowed to add more to it, for example a full summary of each turn.

If you are the kind of person who enjoys writing his battle reports up as a narrative, can you please attach a report in this fashion as an appendix to your story. Thank you.

Simple enough. Now I just need to find the reports i wrote XD

where is the batrep?

in the op