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This may be a dumb questions in the wrong thread but..

I recently had a game were there was an argument that resulted in some heated words, and I really just want to get the 411 on this situation.

How many models is covered by the 3" blast

Example:

My block of 30 saurus warriors were hit in the direct middle. My understanding was that its a 3" template...each base is 1" therefore 9 hit.
My opponent insists that 14 (-ish I am not sure exactly) models are hit).

Who is right in this situation?

I'm sure there is a diagram out there somewhere of it.

Basically, place the template dead center on the PLACE that it hit. This may not be the center of a models base. Any model whose base is in any way under the template is hit.

I don't have a template handy at the moment to figure out the maximum number of 25mm bases that can be hit by it.

My google-fu produced this:


So on saurus the max is 15 with some corner clipping.

so 15 max, of which 2 of them would be arguable. The odds of the center landing in that exact position are slim. That said, 13 hits are easily seen and undeniable in that pic. So 14 might not be far off.

There is no hard set number of hits. It depends entirely on the position of the template within the unit.

If the template hit dead center on a model, then you'd be looking at 9 obvious hits, however there's still the matter of the extra 1mm in that 3" which would easily make a 10th hit.

As the diagram states 15 is the max you could hit, however the diagram is not taking into account your template will actually be less then 3" (the plastic shrinks a little while being molded) My gaming all know how to align the template for max results so we just assume 15 if it gets a hit (providing the target unit is large enuff)

The deal is, it's never going to be perfectly set-up like those pictures. You really need to stand over them. They actually have some spiffy little wireframe holders you can put your templates on and gaze down without setting them on your models.

I would but a set of GW movement trays and do not cut up one of the sheets and carry it around and actually put the template over it so you can show people how many guys are actually getting clipped by the template. This is of course the responsibility of the person using the template, I did this with my dwarfs with my beastmen I leave it at home.

I think the only real solution to this (and any) problem is for you and your opponent to buy swords, put pots on your heads and hack each other up in the street. First person to succumb to blood loss is the loser.

 Aerethan wrote:
so 15 max, of which 2 of them would be arguable. The odds of the center landing in that exact position are slim.

Well, the odds are one in three. Put it exactly so that it hits 15 models which any player should be able to do, then roll a hit on the scatter die.

 Jubear wrote:
As the diagram states 15 is the max you could hit, however the diagram is not taking into account your template will actually be less then 3" (the plastic shrinks a little while being molded) My gaming all know how to align the template for max results so we just assume 15 if it gets a hit (providing the target unit is large enuff)

There are also (at least) three different sized 3" templates made by GW that all vary by a couple of mm.
The orange from 3rd ed 40k/6th (?) ed WHFB, the whitish more flexible plastic ones (these are smaller than the orange ones), the fluoro green ones (slightly larger than the whitish ones). Not to mention the stupid gold coloured plastic-y ones.

 chromedog wrote:

 Jubear wrote:
As the diagram states 15 is the max you could hit, however the diagram is not taking into account your template will actually be less then 3" (the plastic shrinks a little while being molded) My gaming all know how to align the template for max results so we just assume 15 if it gets a hit (providing the target unit is large enuff)

There are also (at least) three different sized 3" templates made by GW that all vary by a couple of mm.
The orange from 3rd ed 40k/6th (?) ed WHFB, the whitish more flexible plastic ones (these are smaller than the orange ones), the fluoro green ones (slightly larger than the whitish ones). Not to mention the stupid gold coloured plastic-y ones.

good to know Ive never even got my white plastic ones out of the plastic I think knowing that they are smaller they may just stay there

Well rather than not use a movement tray i carry a sheet of this around.
http://incompetech.com/graphpaper/lite/

Remember the aiming doesn't have to be the center of a models base either. You can deliberatly place it off center of the unit in question.


9 hits is actually the max for 40mm based infantry like Ogres. for 20mm it is much higher.