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2012/09/23 21:52:33
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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That rule gives a 5++ Invuln and Fearless, unfortunately.
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2012/09/23 21:54:34
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Now I'm really curious... What unit gets the baleflamer?
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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2012/09/23 21:55:18
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Tick: Everybody was a baby once, Arthur. Oh, sure, maybe not today, or even yesterday. But once. Babies, chum: tiny, dimpled, fleshy mirrors of our us-ness, that we parents hurl into the future, like leathery footballs of hope. And you've got to get a good spiral on that baby, or evil will make an interception. |
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2012/09/23 21:58:55
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
somewhere in the northern side of the beachball
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Nope
deamon gives fear not fearless and models with fear are not fearless.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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2012/09/23 22:01:15
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why does the Icon that grants Mark of Nurgle grant Fear, and the Icon that grants Mark of Slaneesh grant Feel No Pain? Nurgle is synonymous with Feel No Pain, which is useful. Whereas Fear is honestly quite useless with the average troop you are going to give the Icon to.
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2012/09/23 22:01:51
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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I8 deamon prince? What the hell? 5 attacka WS9, It looks it got buffed i never rememering it getting that many attacks and definatly not that high initialtive
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2012/09/23 22:02:01
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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Oops! Typo, meant Fear, not fearless.
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2012/09/23 22:03:51
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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 Marthike wrote:I8 deamon prince? What the hell? 5 attacka WS9, It looks it got buffed i never rememering it getting that many attacks and definatly not that high initialtive
But he is only Ld 9... ya, I have no idea whats up with his unusually stats.
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2012/09/23 22:04:34
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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How do we know the DP doesn't have Eternal Warrior any more?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/23 22:05:10
The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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2012/09/23 22:06:47
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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The entry under "Special Rules" does not list it.
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2012/09/23 22:07:04
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Terrifying Wraith
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For now, only the Warpsmith interessed me for my Iron Warrior (every units are on rhinos). What piss me off is I cannot used anymore my dreadnoughts...
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2012/09/23 22:10:40
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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hellpato wrote:For now, only the Warpsmith interessed me for my Iron Warrior (every units are on rhinos). What piss me off is I cannot used anymore my dreadnoughts...
You can use your dreads. You just use the rules for the hellbrute.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/09/23 22:11:01
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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hellpato wrote:For now, only the Warpsmith interessed me for my Iron Warrior (every units are on rhinos). What piss me off is I cannot used anymore my dreadnoughts...
They're called space marine allies. Incidentally, they will just be chaos marines selected from a loyalist marine codex edit: I'm not actually aware of the alliance rules, so this may be bogus unless others choose to ignore the alliance tables
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/09/23 22:12:21
15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;
To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.
It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. |
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2012/09/23 22:13:49
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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where are you seeing this? Have you got the codex?
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2012/09/23 22:15:17
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah, it appears as if the helbrute is simply the new chaos dreadnought. Fine by me, really. All it is is a new name, and a much better (while still fluffy) Crazed rule.
On the Daemon Prince: I haven't actually seen the special rules for him, but he might still have EW under another special rule, a la Ghazzy or something, where the EW isn't specifically listed. I played about 15 games with him before I realized that lol.
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2012/09/23 22:16:08
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In regards to the DP, do Daemons not automatically have Eternal Warrior anymore?
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2012/09/23 22:16:25
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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2012/09/23 22:18:22
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1348426712843.jpg
It is hard to make out, but you can see Fearless, Daemon and Veteran of the Long War, but not Eternal Warrior.
In regards to the Chaos Daemons not have Eternal Warrior, they DO have it, as the Codex Special Rule takes precedence over the rulebook version.
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2012/09/23 22:21:35
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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 poda_t wrote:hellpato wrote:For now, only the Warpsmith interessed me for my Iron Warrior (every units are on rhinos). What piss me off is I cannot used anymore my dreadnoughts...
They're called space marine allies. Incidentally, they will just be chaos marines selected from a loyalist marine codex
edit: I'm not actually aware of the alliance rules, so this may be bogus unless others choose to ignore the alliance tables
lol, that's funny. You were all snarky about it, like "They're called allies, dude.", but you don't even know the rules?
Just to clarify, you don't even really need to look it up because it SHOULD be obvious, but I just checked and sure enough, Loyalists don't like CSM much. At all, actually. So no, that won't work.
That said I don't see what the problem is anyway, you can still use your god-damned dreads. They're just "helbrutes" now, which judging from the one and only existing "helbrute" model, looks exactly like a mutated fething dread! And we've even had people confirm that the fluff says "some helbrutes are more mutated than others" so there's NO REASON AT ALL for you to not be able to use your old dreadnoughts. Is this seriously an issue just because of the name? Who cares, ignore the name, it's a Chaos dreadnought.
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 Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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2012/09/23 22:22:34
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
somewhere in the northern side of the beachball
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blood reaper wrote:How do we know the DP doesn't have Eternal Warrior any more?
CleverAntics wrote:The entry under "Special Rules" does not list it.
It lists 3 special rules Deamon, fearless and something else that I can't tell what it is. My guess it's "Widow of the living Ward".
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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2012/09/23 22:24:22
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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Is there any weapon that can instant kill a toughness six model anyways?
(Also, can anyone put up a scan of the Cult section?)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/23 22:25:21
The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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2012/09/23 22:26:05
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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Just a Force Weapon, or Special Weapon with ID. Situational, unless you're fighting Grey Knights.
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2012/09/23 22:26:44
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Nice, my friend is interested in the warp smith and it was very helpful.
Where can i find all these pictures?
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2012/09/23 22:28:20
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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 blood reaper wrote:Is there any weapon that can instant kill a toughness six model anyways?
(Also, can anyone put up a scan of the Cult section?)
Weapons with the Instant Death Special Rule (Like the Slaaneshi Daemon Weapon)
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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2012/09/23 22:30:03
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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Where are you getting these scans from? Can I get a link?
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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2012/09/23 22:31:18
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
London, UK
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And the Daemon Prince is only Toughness 5 so any Strength 10 weapon will kill him in one shot too.
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2012/09/23 22:32:34
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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 XT-1984 wrote:And the Daemon Prince is only Toughness 5 so any Strength 10 weapon will kill him in one shot too.
DP's seem to have taken a massive hit, without Eternal Warrior, their kinda gakky.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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2012/09/23 22:33:55
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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Marthike wrote:
Nice, my friend is interested in the warp smith and it was very helpful.
Where can i find all these pictures?
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?353048-All-the-new-chaos-marine-launch-Just-click/page17
Go to post #325, there are 5 links to pictures. The original source is from Faeit, I believe.
Have to remember Nurgle can make him T6, so not all is lost. Also, I don't think it was here, but I read somewhere else that he may have access to Daemon Weapons...would be interesting if true.
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2012/09/23 22:40:08
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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WD says he does, in fact, have access. I'll have to find where in my copy, they mention it offhand.
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2012/09/23 22:41:27
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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Sigmundr wrote:WD says he does, in fact, have access. I'll have to find where in my copy, they mention it offhand.
Maybe it's an upgrade?
If Space Wolves can purchase such an upgrade, it would make as much sense to allow a Daemon Prince it.
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