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Armadeus wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Then, you shall not pass.

Actually, Gandalf said said "You cannot pass!", not "You shall not pass!"
Not that it matters.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Same thing happens when you attend big tournaments in other states. When a crew of 8 or 10 of my local league guys drove down to Baltimore in 2001 for the GT, we had our eyes opened on a couple of rules we had been playing wrong.

Everywhere I've traveled, I usually wind up meeting at least one or two guys who play a couple of things differently. Or who play the same because the event has a FAQ, but disagree with different parts of the FAQ than I do.

It is almost like 40k is some sort of religion!

Dose that make Kirby the Pope?

Anyway, I had been playing that hover flyers still have skyfire. Oh well, just means I have to control my Stormravens better.

Ok, thanks, I didn't know that in the movie he said shall not pass. In the books he said, and I quote:"You cannot pass. I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

Armadeus wrote:
..and I quote from the books: "You cannot pass. I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

You probably have noted that the movie didn't follow the books in all aspects. It's still both a quote from Gandalf.


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Heh, you're welcome

 Hollowman wrote:


I've never heard of anyone playing it any other way - I was surprised the FAQ needed to comment on it at all! The rules for emplaced weapons are pretty clear that you have to be in base to base to use it, after all... I've been standing on the roof from day one.

This. I only played with a Bastion once, in an early game of 6th, but I had a squad on the roof to shoot the gun.

We did have a discussion of what cover save the battlements gave though.

And I never thought hovering fliers had skyfire. RAI, A fast skimmer is low to the ground (you know, skimming), why would it still be able to shoot at airplanes? It has skyfire by virtue of the fact that it's up in the sky zooming around.

That's just your interpretation of it. Other people interpreted it differently on other assumptions, which were just as baseless as yours.

As for "a fast skimmer is low to the ground". Maybe give the eldar codex a read?

 sudojoe wrote:
The issue with purgation squads is that INAT basically clarified that if you have say a 2+ cover save from like stealth/shrouding, then you get a 4+ cover, it doesn't replace your 2+ cover. You can still use your 2+ cover save against the attack unless of course somehow night time was happening.

Purgation squads don't have anything out of 36' so I'm not even really sure what the point of this FAQ was for. Seems to be more confusing now. I suppose it would affect any IC's attached though who may have better weapons i.e. conversion beamer as that's the only one I can think up.

I know this is the home of INAT, but I don't think it's perfect -- and that ruling in particular, I'd disagree with. Anyway, it's a fairly useless power to start with.

If a purgation squad (or even an IC in a purgation squad) was firing a gun emplacement, you would indeed have a gun over 36" that could benefit from that power. Same as a Shas'El firing it can use it's blacksun filter.


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nanaki658 wrote:
If you want to add 1 to your hover = no skyfire side

Huh?

We have an understanding of any argument over rules that can't be settled quickly with a rule check = logic wins.

Oh, no, don't be like that it. If you simply settle arguments with logic, what the heck do you think the rest of us were doing? Everything would be so logical and sensible, if they'd just shut up and do it your way, yeah?