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Frazzled has not been a moderator on this forum for a very, very long time.

I miss the mad god's reign sometimes.

 Grimtuff wrote:


See, it's the above kind of thing that truly pisses me off about certain mods. I do the same thing (post a pic as a response, just like in the example above) and get banned for several days and/or have the post randomly deleted with no reasoning. Others do it (and other mods I might add (Frazzled)) and they get lauded for it. Try some consistency guys. For the most part I find the team to be A-ok, but the hypocrisy just annoys the hell out of me.

The answer is very simple. The Mods are human. MODS don't look at every post in every thread.

If someone does something that you've gotten in trouble for, hit the yellow triangle. Report them. Let them know. Write a little note in the report.

Or, you can sit there and have a pity party about it. I'll make you some hot chocolate, slugger.

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I draw the line at DNA samples. If Manchu asks for one, its a trap!

Don't be intimidated by the size of the cup.

You're right, its entirely too small.

The Mods are on the whole decent, and by decent it means they still have incriminating photos of TBone in a torrid affair with the nighbor's Siamese cat, so I'm always supportive of Mod actions.


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 Grimtuff wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
I think the word you're looking for is "inconsistency". We apologize for that. It's mostly a product of limited time and inability to see everything. Sometimes we just make mistakes, too.

Hypocrisy too. Mods do it (I've named one), other users do it. Then I do it, as it seems to be an acceptable thing but it's deemed to be spam certainly by one particular mod (Janthkin) who has suspended me twice for doing something I thought to be acceptable on this forum due to it being present in hundreds of other posts and other mods doing the very same thing. As I said hypocrisy and inconsistency.

Its your avatar. Itys disconcerting.


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 n0t_u wrote:
I miss the mad god's reign sometimes.

A vote for Frazzled is a vote for Freedom.

It gives me a good perspective. Frankly Mods on this board have to put up with a lot of crap that you don't see, from posters who are proof that most of humanity shouldn't breed.
Plus the pay is strictly minimum wage. Thats why you'll frequently find them scavenging the trash cans behind dakka on Fresh Fish Friday.

Consistency is something I think we broadly strive for but personally I don't think it's the ultimate goal. The highest priority I have as a moderator is encouraging an atmosphere where reasonable people can enjoy chatting about their wargaming hobbies. What do I mean by reasonable? Well, let me tell you what I mean by unreasonable. I find that users who are frequently moderated think of posting on a message board like being a citizen and that moderation should be like running a government. IMO, that is totally false. Rights, precedents, rulings, etc., are not really relevant here because nothing too important is on the line. In my eyes, this works out to me being very reluctant to edit, warn, and suspend generally but perhaps a bit less charitable to folks who repeatedly need editing, warning, and suspending.

I think the mods do a good job.

I've only disagreed with them once, and I could see their side of things.

There's also a matter of context. Moderation is an art not a science, as is posting.

Just posting a silly pic may be spam or it may be art.

I usually take my moderation lumps like a man because I did something stupid to deserve them. The best way to avoid it is to not break the rules.

There have been good times and bad times, but at least it's not Warseer.

George Spiggott wrote:There have been good times and bad times, but at least it's not Warseer.

Amen.

At it's worst, Dakka was still better than Warseer's best.

 pretre wrote:
There's also a matter of context. Moderation is an art not a science, as is posting.

Just posting a silly pic may be spam or it may be art.

A lot of it also comes down to the individual poster's history. The response to any particular rules infraction escalates for repeat offenders. So while posting a spammy pic is generally at worst going to result in the pic being removed and a warning, if you have a history of rules infractions those warnings are eventually going to turn into immediate short suspensions.

The vast majority of Dakka's posters never do anything that warrants moderator attention. As Lego pointed out, more than 60000 users without a warning. Of the 1500 or so who have at some point in the last 5 years received a moderator warning, the vast majority never receive more than one. In most cases, it's a simple matter of us pointing out that certain behaviour is unacceptable on this site and the poster saying 'Ok then' and everybody moving on.

So if you're complaining about being unfairly treated, stop for a moment and have a think about how many warnings you have received, and what they have been for. If you've received multiple warnings or suspensions for the same behaviour, there's a very, very easy way to make it stop happening...

If you get a warning you can always pay the bribe to get rid of your record and become a delinquent chastised member.

Remember Kronk we are constantly being judged.

So... You have all your posts in the P&M board. Not one single post in OT.

I'm just going to respond with this:

d-usa wrote:If you get a warning you can always pay the bribe to get rid of your record and become a delinquent chastised member.

It doesn't work, then you actually have to post WITH them in the secret squirrel boards. Its consorting with the devil.

George Spiggott wrote:There have been good times and bad times, but at least it's not Warseer.

and /thread.

 Ouze wrote:
Please don't post just an image meme as a reply. It's considered spam on Dakka. -Mannahnin

This is a clear example of how strict and over the top the staff is.
God man.

Kidding. Please don't hurt me again.
Please.

The statistics were pretty interesting.

Would it be possible to see how many have users have over 2, 3, 4 ,5 etc warnings, just to see which particular bracket of d-baggery i'm sitting in?

You're in the 'Medium of Death' bracket.

That's right, you got so many that they named a bracket after you.

Naughty Medium, naughty!

 Medium of Death wrote:
The statistics were pretty interesting.

Would it be possible to see how many have users have over 2, 3, 4 ,5 etc warnings, just to see which particular bracket of d-baggery i'm sitting in?

I've had three warnings.

One of which was for spam, one of which was for telling a user to shut up (for the record, he told me to shut up and I said "NO YOU" or something else tongue-in-cheek like that) and one for being impolite to a stupid person. I learned that just because a person is stupid doesn't mean it's okay to be an donkey-cave to them. Forest Gump was stupid, and he was still awesome.

I believe the moderators are paid for too much for the quality of the job they do.

 Just Dave wrote:
I believe the moderators are paid for too much for the quality of the job they do.

The moderators don't get...

Oh I see.

 Just Dave wrote:
I believe the moderators are paid for too much for the quality of the job they do.

Yeah! These top-cat executives get far too much pay whilst the common man is left in the dirt! They blame the victim; ride around in their CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORTs; live in spacious Likto Industrial Towers and Space Corridors and they never once think about the small man outside who has nothing!

The tyrannical rule of these 20-foot tall female Chaos Grey Knights must come to an end! They must be brought before the courts to face justice for their crimes of theft against the men, women and children who live without so that these monstrosities might have another course for their opulent tables. They feast upon fine food and wine whilst we starve!

No more, I say! It is time we take a stand against the rich getting richer!

Occupy Dakka 2012!

They should get bonuses for the quality of their put-downs and thread-closing statements, however. This includes KK's asian women pictures*.

*remember that game/competition this led to M.R? Good times.

 Just Dave wrote:
*remember that game/competition this led to M.R? Good times.

That was during the golden age of the DCM forum. Magic!

 Monster Rain wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
*remember that game/competition this led to M.R? Good times.

That was during the golden age of the DCM forum. Magic!

I wish I was a DCM. I'd give myself a badass title and gossip incessantly in the private DCM forums.

sighhhhh...

The DCM forums are not as exciting as you might be led to believe.

 Amaya wrote:
The DCM forums are not as exciting as you might be led to believe.

This man lies. Although I may not post in them very often, the DCM forums are awesome.

Yeah, think the OT section as a base. Then imagine how good it could be.

It can all be summed up with a simple directive: blame the victim.


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 Amaya wrote:
The DCM forums are not as exciting as you might be led to believe.

I dunno, your recent posts in that one thread have been pretty damn good.

I like to imagine the moderators chanting "Blame the Victim" as they unfairly ban yet another innocent poster who was only speaking truth to POWER, man!

I imagine the scene from Hot Fuzz where everybody is wearing robes and chanting "for the greater good".

Except they are chanting "blame the victim" of course.