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Instead of assuming Mr. Moustaffa's success is due to poor opponents, it may simply be that his meta urges people to take TAC lists, while yours seems to favor tailored lists. Due to the overall cheap costs of anti-light infantry weapons in most Codices, Foot Guard get the short end of the stick in tailored environments. However, when people are also planning a list to deal with MEQs, TEQs, Mech spam, and Deathstars, they have a lot less of the stuff efficiently removes Guardsmen.

In your tournament plans, you may keep this in mind. You probably won't be facing quite as many anti-infantry weapons in a tournament as you did in a league.

DarknessEternal wrote:But power blob won a major event. I'm not saying you'd win with it where you play, just that it did win a major event.

Hmm, I'm curious to know how he avoided this fate:

bogalubov wrote:By turn 4 I had one vendetta and 4 guardsmen left

The problem hasn't been so much specific anti-blob counters (like snipers). The problem has been that I've been getting tabled by turn 4. Commissars won't stop your opponent from gunning down your entire army in just a couple of turns.

 Ailaros wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:But power blob won a major event. I'm not saying you'd win with it where you play, just that it did win a major event.

Hmm, I'm curious to know how he avoided this fate:

That's the problem with tournament results, we don't really get to know why.

Actually i forget who (otherwise i would post it here) but there is a NOVA report here on DAKA that is against the blob/space wolf list that won if i recall correctly.

It probably not a bad place to start answering the how and the why.

Yay a win! I knew you couldn't be unlucky forever!

TheMicah25 wrote:
Actually i forget who (otherwise i would post it here) but there is a NOVA report here on DAKA that is against the blob/space wolf list that won if i recall correctly.

It probably not a bad place to start answering the how and the why.

I'd like to see that actually. I play Mech Guard cause I have a theme(always been obsessed with Panzer Divisions and the like ) but if it ever fits my fancy I'd like to see how to make a proper blob list.

TheMicah25 wrote:
Actually i forget who (otherwise i would post it here) but there is a NOVA report here on DAKA that is against the blob/space wolf list that won if i recall correctly.

It probably not a bad place to start answering the how and the why.

Thats an allied army, not a pure IG blob army. It works because you had a strong save guy in front who could just transfer his unsaved wounds to peons.

What models did your opponent use? I've never seen star wars miniatures for 28mm scale. If he converted those they are fantastic.

On your list I agree with a previous poster that 3 basilisks would have served you better. A sure, consistent, fire is better than a one hit, but very unreliable, wonder.

 ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:

TheMicah25 wrote:
Actually i forget who (otherwise i would post it here) but there is a NOVA report here on DAKA that is against the blob/space wolf list that won if i recall correctly.

It probably not a bad place to start answering the how and the why.

Thats an allied army, not a pure IG blob army. It works because you had a strong save guy in front who could just transfer his unsaved wounds to peons.

Why do you think that would work any better? It just gets that guy killed first and faster.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:

TheMicah25 wrote:
Actually i forget who (otherwise i would post it here) but there is a NOVA report here on DAKA that is against the blob/space wolf list that won if i recall correctly.

It probably not a bad place to start answering the how and the why.

Thats an allied army, not a pure IG blob army. It works because you had a strong save guy in front who could just transfer his unsaved wounds to peons.

Why do you think that would work any better? It just gets that guy killed first and faster.

2+ Armor save. 2+ Look out sir.

Uhh, but LoS! is a re-allocation. You have to do LoS! BEFORE you make your armor save, not after.

If you were cheating with LoS! (inadvertently or otherwise), then yeah, I could see that strategy being useful. As it is, as D.E. notes, it's just getting a more expensive model killed faster.

I'll ask about the star wars minis if the guy shows up to the tournament tomorrow.

Really. Ill have to remember tht. We have been playing armor save then LoS!

If you want to speed up the game, and avoid doing LoS rolls one at a time, then I believe that is the suggested format. Make your saves then make your LoS rolls. Of couse it can lead to some shannanigans, but it saves a lot of time.

 Ailaros wrote:
Uhh, but LoS! is a re-allocation. You have to do LoS! BEFORE you make your armor save, not after.

If you were cheating with LoS! (inadvertently or otherwise), then yeah, I could see that strategy being useful. As it is, as D.E. notes, it's just getting a more expensive model killed faster.

I'll ask about the star wars minis if the guy shows up to the tournament tomorrow.

There used to be a really good game called Star Wars Miniatures made by WotC. I know this because that's how I got introduced to miniatures gaming. Sadly it is no longer supported, however I still have a huge tub of models from the game! A lot of them are good sculpts, most of the time it's the paint job that makes them look off.

Anyway, congrats on the win, I'm of the opinion that conscripts with SitNW are going to become a mainstay of your lists, which is great! However I'm worried about the other guy-if he has worse luck than you, I'd be surprised if he hasn't been bitten by sharks and struck by lightning!

 WhiteWolf01 wrote:
If you want to speed up the game, and avoid doing LoS rolls one at a time, then I believe that is the suggested format. Make your saves then make your LoS rolls. Of couse it can lead to some shannanigans, but it saves a lot of time.

It suggests doing that only when everyone has the same armor save.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 WhiteWolf01 wrote:
If you want to speed up the game, and avoid doing LoS rolls one at a time, then I believe that is the suggested format. Make your saves then make your LoS rolls. Of couse it can lead to some shannanigans, but it saves a lot of time.

It suggests doing that only when everyone has the same armor save.

Right.

The way we've been speeding up LoS! is to roll them all first. That way, any successful ones are allocated to someone else, and all the failed ones are allocated to the model in question. Of course, it's not perfect (as you've then got to figure out a way to pass those extra wounds onto something else. This usually isn't a problem, though, as most things worth using LoS! on are multi-wound), and you have to make sure you don't roll more LoS! than there are models that can take a hit for the leader.

Despite its imperfection, it works really fast, and it preserves the allocation-before-saving order in the rulebook.