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Is taking Land Raider Crusaders for Draigo wing worth the loss of two psycannons per unit (since max capactiy is 8 Termies)???



I'm thinking of a 2k list like this:

HQ

Draigo - 275 pts

Troops

7 Paladins with two psycannons, 2 hammers, Apothacarry, and 5 halberds - 500 pts (Draigo goes in this squad obviously)
8 Paladins with two psycannons, 2 hammers, Apothacarry, 6 Halberds - 555 pts

Heavy Support

Land Raider Crusader with Psybolt ammo and multimelta - 270 pts
Land Raider Crusader with Psybolt ammo and Multimelta- 270 pts

This leaves me at with a grand total of 1870 points. I'm having a hard time decided how to spend the remaining 130 pts for a 2k list. A psyfleman dread is 5 points too much. I could give both squads psybolt ammo and master craft all psycannons, but that still only brings me to 1930 points. Any thoughts on how I could fill the remaining points?

I mean you could do GKSS with psycannon and psybolt for 130. I mean you can take one termie from the 8 man squad and add coteaz in with them. Divination power is pretty good.

Any other suggestions?

honestly those cannons are good, however however however..... a landraider increases your survival ... just a little bit and at the loss of your psycannon str 7 ap4 rending you gain a landraider with its weaponry. I wouldnt take pally squads without psybolt ammo. period. or a vehicle they are in either... period.... lol. IF your going to take pallies IN a landraider.. seriously i think apothecary is an overkill.. look we understand they are not going to die... dont need to double rub in the face... ALSO i dont have the dex near me but dont the land raiders come with a port homer? if so why not take ONE raider then teleport your 10 man WITH an apothecary and all the glorious cannons you want... should give you enough points for a dreadknight or 2?

always an option your weakness is only 2 troops.... sure 2 troops that are going to deal some good hard death all around and probably not do too much of that dying stuff themselves.... but thats only 2 cap points you will own. adding in some dreadknights and using draigo to upgrade them into capping troops... makes it a bit better.

I'd be very tempted to drop one of your apothecaries, get the Psyrifle dread you want, then use the extra points to Mastercraft some psycannons and get the psybolt ammo if you have points spare. I also love Klown's idea of dropping a Paladin and adding Coteaz to a squad. An Ordo Xenos Inquisitor with divination and a bunch of grenades could be fun cheaper option. There is also the classic Psycannon Inquisitor with divination which is only 10 points more than Coteaz.

Shadowmyth515 wrote:
honestly those cannons are good, however however however..... a landraider increases your survival ... just a little bit and at the loss of your psycannon str 7 ap4 rending you gain a landraider with its weaponry. I wouldnt take pally squads without psybolt ammo. period. or a vehicle they are in either... period.... lol. IF your going to take pallies IN a landraider.. seriously i think apothecary is an overkill.. look we understand they are not going to die... dont need to double rub in the face... ALSO i dont have the dex near me but dont the land raiders come with a port homer? if so why not take ONE raider then teleport your 10 man WITH an apothecary and all the glorious cannons you want... should give you enough points for a dreadknight or 2?

always an option your weakness is only 2 troops.... sure 2 troops that are going to deal some good hard death all around and probably not do too much of that dying stuff themselves.... but thats only 2 cap points you will own. adding in some dreadknights and using draigo to upgrade them into capping troops... makes it a bit better.

1. Thank you for that Trials of Draigo reference

2. The Apothacary is not just for the squad, but for Draigo, since he is T5 he gets FNP from krak missiles and Dark Lances and other Str 8 weapons that regular pallies dont get FNP from..

3. My main opponent uses Elder with DE allies, which means Dark Lances out the buttocks, and also means at least one if not both of my LRs will be destroyed by the end of the game, at which point the Apoc becomes much more useful especially since I have fewer models.

4. Just checked the GK dex, LRs dont come with a teleport homer

Another option to get some scoring units on the board could be some solo Paladins. You could keep them in reserve and use Draigo's psychic communion to delay them as long as possible.

Are you fully committed to a Draigowing list?

Klown wrote:
Are you fully committed to a Draigowing list?

Yes.

The concern I have is that, on objective games what will you be using to hold them? Both squads of pallies and make the LR capping units? Maybe getting a storm raven for the 8 man, and deepstriking Draigo and have enough for a tele NDK?

Klown wrote:
The concern I have is that, on objective games what will you be using to hold them? Both squads of pallies and make the LR capping units? Maybe getting a storm raven for the 8 man, and deepstriking Draigo and have enough for a tele NDK?

StormRaven can only hold 6 Termies.

Hmm this is a very mind bottling list lol. I guess the best way to find answers is to play this list and then see the faults if there is any.

Coteaz is awesome for his points cost and use divination to buff the pladins, I would drop the apothacary upgrade, I guess you can trail it but the unit is tough as nails anyway, it does not add that much more. The you can add a few cheap henchman squads in psybacks to add some extra troops, hold home objectives etc.

My thought would be take one LR. Then split the one ino two units of 5. That should leave you enough points to add 1 or twio other things. 1 LR can protect 1 squad and protect 2 others marching along side and behnd it.

DAaddict wrote:
My thought would be take one LR. Then split the one ino two units of 5. That should leave you enough points to add 1 or twio other things. 1 LR can protect 1 squad and protect 2 others marching along side and behnd it.

Would Draigo go in the LR or would he go with the footslogging unit?

well, what I'd probably bring if I did draigo wing in raiders...

draigo - 275

OMI - terminator, psyker(divination), force sword, stormbolter, psyammo - 100 (or change out for coteaz I guess)

vindicare - 145

paladins - 7 man, apothecary(halberd), 2x incins, 4x halberds, 2x hammers - 470

paladins - 7 man, apothecary(halberd), 2x incins, 4x halberds, 2x hammers - 470

land raider crusader - psyammo, multimelta - 270

land raider crusader - psyammo, multimelta - 270