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2012/09/21 06:46:54
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Hey everyone,
I've looked through relevant parts of the rulebook, and checked the FAQ, so either I'm blind, or something makes absolutely no sense.
Is it possible for your Warlord to come from your Allied detachment? You're forced to pick the highest leadership model, so if you have a LD 9 character from your main force and a LD 10 character from your allied force, you'll have to take the allied guy as your Warlord. This could happen a lot too, with Dark Eldar, IG, Chaos Daemons, Orks, and Tau all having adequate/likely HQs with LD under 10.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a desperate ally as your Warlord. The ally rules hint that this wouldn't happen, as Allies lower than Battle Brothers do not benefit from your Warlord, but nowhere can I find something that definitively says yes or no. Am I missing something?
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2012/09/21 07:34:32
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Making Stuff
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The Warlord rules specify that he has to come from your Primary detachment.
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2012/09/21 12:47:57
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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The catch is your largest point detachment does not have to be the primary detachment. As long as both meet the minimum requirements to be the primary (HQ and 2 Troops) then you can switch as you see fit between games.
You could easily have Marine Capt and 2 Tac Squads lead an IG force at 1500 points. And then switch in a later game.
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>Who else would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area.
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2012/09/21 15:37:59
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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 hisdudeness wrote:The catch is your largest point detachment does not have to be the primary detachment. As long as both meet the minimum requirements to be the primary ( HQ and 2 Troops) then you can switch as you see fit between games.
You could easily have Marine Capt and 2 Tac Squads lead an IG force at 1500 points. And then switch in a later game.
Except for that pesky force org chart difference between primary and ally. You could, absolutely, do what you said. As long you have no more than 2 troops on either side and no more than 1 of anything else.
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2012/09/21 15:39:26
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Just to ask a follow-up question: is it possible for your Warlord to be a unit of more than 1 model?
For example, the Royal Court for Necrons?
Iranna.
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2012/09/21 15:45:39
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Probably not, as it is says "...always the HQ choice character with the highest Leadership..."
(note the use of the singular noun rather than the plural)
So while this means you could probably pick 'one' of the crypteks or lords in your Royal Court to be the Warlord (as they are all tied for highest leadership with a 10 and are all characters), you cannot select 'all' of them.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/09/21 15:47:08
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2012/09/21 16:00:27
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The only issue with Warlords is the FW Armoured Company, who has vehicle HQs, and Bjorn is the only vehicle allowed to be a Warlord.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/09/21 16:04:50
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Tunneling Trygon
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Thats forgeworld though...
Gak always goes sour when you bring Forgeworld into it...
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2012/09/21 17:27:33
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Yeah, they (forge world units) don't always mesh as well as one would like. Pity too, as the models are generally awesome-looking.
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2012/09/21 20:17:02
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Material for Haemonculus Experiments
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Primary detatchment
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2012/09/21 20:18:56
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:The only issue with Warlords is the FW Armoured Company, who has vehicle HQs, and Bjorn is the only vehicle allowed to be a Warlord.
I just pick one of my HQ-choice tanks to be the warlord - what exactly is the problem?
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2012/09/21 20:22:25
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Unit1126PLL wrote:Happyjew wrote:The only issue with Warlords is the FW Armoured Company, who has vehicle HQs, and Bjorn is the only vehicle allowed to be a Warlord.
I just pick one of my HQ-choice tanks to be the warlord - what exactly is the problem?
Warlord has to be a Character. As of right now, Bjorn is the only vehicle that is a Character.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/09/21 20:23:49
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote: Unit1126PLL wrote:Happyjew wrote:The only issue with Warlords is the FW Armoured Company, who has vehicle HQs, and Bjorn is the only vehicle allowed to be a Warlord.
I just pick one of my HQ-choice tanks to be the warlord - what exactly is the problem?
Warlord has to be a Character. As of right now, Bjorn is the only vehicle that is a Character.
Oh, that's because the sixth edition version of the list isn't out yet.
At least command tanks can be scoring with the right warlord trait.
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2012/09/21 20:27:43
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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TBH if someone brought an armoured company I'd let them use their Command tank as the Warlord. As long as my Hive Guard can allocate wounds/hits to units completely out of sight 
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/09/26 10:50:09
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Tunneling Trygon
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I got into this "discussion" in my game last night.
IG Company Command Squad.
ONE Model has to be the Warlord in that right?
And what about a Necron Royal Court?
If i take an Overlord and a Royal Court, can a member of the Royal court be that warlord?
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2012/09/26 10:56:17
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Confessor Of Sins
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 Bloodhorror wrote:
IG Company Command Squad.
ONE Model has to be the Warlord in that right?
One would think so, but there's no characters in the CCS. Either agree with the opponent that the officer is the Warlord or do without a Warlord.
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2012/09/26 11:12:32
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Tunneling Trygon
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Well, the units is a HQ Choice.
You pick the model with the Highest LD.
Nothing more to it really...
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2012/09/26 14:04:11
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Spetulhu wrote: Bloodhorror wrote:
IG Company Command Squad.
ONE Model has to be the Warlord in that right?
One would think so, but there's no characters in the CCS. Either agree with the opponent that the officer is the Warlord or do without a Warlord.
The Company Commander is a Character. As well as the Astropath, Master of Ordnance, and Officer of the Fleet. Automatically Appended Next Post: Bloodhorror wrote:Well, the units is a HQ Choice.
You pick the model with the Highest LD.
Nothing more to it really...
You pick the character with highest Leadership, not model (Bjorn being the sole exception).
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/09/26 14:31:49
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Bloodhorror wrote:Well, the units is a HQ Choice.
You pick the model with the Highest LD.
Nothing more to it really...
That and lets not forget that there are at least one or two random exceptions to this. The one I can think of off the top of my head, black templar and the emperor's champion. He's a Character, he's an HQ, but he can not be the warlord. Perhaps the possibility of blob type HQ choices like this are simply not allowed to be the warlord (or won't be). *Shrug*
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2012/09/26 14:34:06
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:The only issue with Warlords is the FW Armoured Company, who has vehicle HQs, and Bjorn is the only vehicle allowed to be a Warlord.
Currently that is true. IA1 second edition will, from what i saw at GD, be fixing this...
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2012/09/26 15:08:30
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Tunneling Trygon
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Well it says at the top that you pick one Model 
Says nothing on characters...
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2012/09/26 15:10:13
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Bloodhorror wrote:Well it says at the top that you pick one Model
Says nothing on characters...
Page 108 ( HQ Heading) - Every army contains at least one Headquarters
unit, and a character from one of the army's HQ units must
be nominated as the army's Warlord (see page 111).
ALso on page 111 - This is always the HQ choice character with
the highest Leadership.
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2012/09/26 15:11:20
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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The Hive Mind
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Bloodhorror wrote:Well it says at the top that you pick one Model
Says nothing on characters...
You should read the next sentence.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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2012/09/26 15:24:23
Subject: Re:Choosing your Warlord
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Tunneling Trygon
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Gak....
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2012/09/26 17:23:36
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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somerandomdude wrote:Is it possible for your Warlord to come from your Allied detachment? You're forced to pick the highest leadership model, so if you have a LD 9 character from your main force and a LD 10 character from your allied force, you'll have to take the allied guy as your Warlord. This could happen a lot too, with Dark Eldar, IG, Chaos Daemons, Orks, and Tau all having adequate/likely HQs with LD under 10.
Daemons have 1 unit in the entire codex that is not ld 10, and that's Fateweaver at 9. Making Fateweaver your warlord seems like a terrible idea to me, as he is already a big target, and all it takes is 1 lucky/unlucky shot(p.o.v.) and you lose him.
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rigeld2 wrote: Now go ahead and take that out of context to make me look like a fool.
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2012/09/26 19:05:31
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat
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No one has quoted the part that says the warlord must be from your primary detachment yet... I've been playing it as whatever has the highest ld including allies. Can someone actually point me to the page/FAQ with that restriction?
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2012/09/26 19:12:17
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Altayre wrote:No one has quoted the part that says the warlord must be from your primary detachment yet... I've been playing it as whatever has the highest ld including allies. Can someone actually point me to the page/ FAQ with that restriction?
Page 109 Primary Detachments Section.
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2012/09/28 07:07:34
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
SF Bay Area, CA
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What about Sammael in his land speeder?
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2012/09/28 07:25:14
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Armageddon, Pry System, Armageddon Sector, Armageddon Sub-sector, Segmentum Solar.
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Not stated in the BRB, DA codex or its Errata/ FAQ that I can find, so I would presume no.
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2012/09/28 07:28:05
Subject: Choosing your Warlord
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
SF Bay Area, CA
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But if he is your only HQ... doesn't it default to him?
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