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Guard Primary Detachment
CCS
LC, Camo-cloaks, Sniper

Melta Vets
Demolitions (Vend)

Meet the Pyro PCS (Vend)
3(PIS AC, PG) Krak

Vendetta
Vendetta

LR Executioner
PC sponsons

ADL Quad - manned by CCS

Allied SW Detachment
Rune Priest
TDA, Divination

Wolf Priest
Hunter, Combi-plasma

Grey Hunters x10 (outflank with WP)
Plasma x2

Feedback welcome, especially on the Allied detachment. One concern of mine is how a blob of 30 will do. I've never combined more than 20 and I feel it's going to be unwieldy if I have to make a last minute dash to an objective. Also my lack of armor worries me. 1 AV 14 isn't great, although it will draw a hell of a lot of fire.

Thanks, Griddlelol

You couldn't squeeze in a commissar for LD 9 in your blob? Or was something else going there?

As far as the size of the blob, there was a guy at my lgs that ran 2 blobs of 40 with missiles in 5th.. Yes, they're usually static, but you only need some of them to get to the objective late game.

I agree about the lack of armor, a single executioner on the table will draw all of the AT weapons your opponent brought. Not sure where to find the points for another, however.

 ghastli wrote:
You couldn't squeeze in a commissar for LD 9 in your blob? Or was something else going there?

Should have mentioned, the RP is going in the blob.

The Executioner should be pretty sturdy if I never need to move it out from the ADL, although that's unlikely. The 1st turn will be pretty worrying for the poor Executioner.

MMM mmm Mhh the smell of toasted cheese is strong here...

Ok then... looking at this I would say as I collect both armies funnily enough that you should probably drop the sponsons on the plasma bucket for long fangs. Or even drop the plasma bucket completely. I mean if you want to keep to the super plasma spam fair enough but adding a few long fangs with lascannons/missle launchers etc would be better.

Also dropping the sponsons means you only have to role one gets hot for the plasma russ as the turret only roles one dice for its' three shots instead of three dice for 5 shots.

 DONUTSREVENGED wrote:

Ok then... looking at this I would say as I collect both armies funnily enough that you should probably drop the sponsons on the plasma bucket for long fangs. Or even drop the plasma bucket completely. I mean if you want to keep to the super plasma spam fair enough but adding a few long fangs with lascannons/missle launchers etc would be better.

Also dropping the sponsons means you only have to role one gets hot for the plasma russ as the turret only roles one dice for its' three shots instead of three dice for 5 shots.

the main cannon doesn't have a gets hot roll. The side sponsons are mainly piece of mind if the main canon scatters or for weapon destroyed results. Dropping it for LFs is not a horrible idea, it'd give the list a little more flexibility if I do the standard 5 ML load out. It'd also render the opponents anti-tank guns useless due to the lack of any decent targets. It'd be an odd build...

but that's not always a bad thing.

Edit: two squads of LFs one with 5 MLs and one with 4 MLs is the same price as the executioner...
Nevermind, can't have two HS options in a allied detachement anyway. Still, leave 90 points to spend elsewhere.

This is somewhat unrelated, but do you ever have a problem drawing LoS from the sponsons behind the ADL? And I figured as much about the RP, but I did't want to assume.

Other than the LD on the blob, the only concern I have is your ability to handle a horde. Sure, the PCS can handle maybe a single large squad, but after that, they're dead.

 ghastli wrote:
This is somewhat unrelated, but do you ever have a problem drawing LoS from the sponsons behind the ADL? And I figured as much about the RP, but I did't want to assume.

Other than the LD on the blob, the only concern I have is your ability to handle a horde. Sure, the PCS can handle maybe a single large squad, but after that, they're dead.

I've never actually used the ADL to cover the Executioner, I normally use a couple of chimeras to move it to a nice piece of terrain with decent LoS. The Executioner also serves pretty well as an anti-horde unit. 5 blasts is good. Yeah it's not it's primary use, but the fact that it can fill two roles is what makes me love it.

Rerolling misses on the LFs would be hilarious, until the enemy is in plasma range for the blob.

Updated List to reflect criticisms:

Imperial Guard Regiment
CCS: LC, Camo, Sniper

Melta Vets (in vend)

PCS: Flamerx4 (in valk)
3(PIS: AC, Plasma)

Vendetta
Vendetta
Valkyrie (MRPs)

ADL, Quad Cannon

Space Wolves Strike Force
Rune Priest: TDA, Divination (With 30man blob)

Wolf Priest: Hunter, Combi-plasma (with GHs)

Grey Hunters x10, Plasma x2 (outflank)

Long Fangs x6
ML x5

the Plasma tank has been updated for long fangs and a missile pod valkyrie - giving me better anti-tank and some much needed anti-horde. Whether this will pay off in my local meta is debatable, but forcing MEQ saves is never a bad way to kill them. It makes me feel a little better about the "style" of the list - a rapid response element.

Again, more criticism is very much welcome.

 Griddlelol wrote:

 DONUTSREVENGED wrote:

Edit: two squads of LFs one with 5 MLs and one with 4 MLs is the same price as the executioner...
Nevermind, can't have two HS options in a allied detachement anyway. Still, leave 90 points to spend elsewhere.

this is where id use 5 las cannons instead since you already have a lot of infantry that is more than capable of taking out other infantry and elites you need a hard hitter for popping your opponents vehicles, also i play a space wolf main with guard allies and i have found that a unit of 3 vendetas is amazing at hitting tanks, on average i make a tank explode and the gamers around my area are mainly power armour for sheer number and reliability hitting the few tanks that are ever taken makes easy for 9 T-L las cannons

I don't feel I need lascannons on the the LFs. I have 2 Vendettas and 1 LC in my CCS. That's 7 shots, all with re-rolls (Bring it down). I also have melta vets for dealing with anything that just won't drop to lascannons. It doesn't take full advantage of the Long Fangs' split fire rule either. With MLs they can do anything I want them to. Thanks for the in-put, but there's a reason why everyone takes MLs on Long Fangs and not lascannons! Not to mention saving 15 points per model by giving them MLs.

i must be the only one that dont use MLs on them i use 4 las cannons in 1 unit and 4 plasma cannons in the other unit and 100% of games i play they kill at least 3X their points worth.

i see the use in ML fangs but until i get the funds to buy a stupid amount of dev boxes to get the 1 ML from it im a tad bit stuck with what i got.

How weird I just made a similiar list sans vendetta.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/479140.page#4818127

Indeed, it is similar. Although the updated list is fairly different.

I feel like this list would be better as a Space Wolf list with guard allies.

Isnt it insane to have the long fangs behind an ADL and shoot you missiles while the leader splits fire and shoots the duad gun!?

 Icelord wrote:
I feel like this list would be better as a Space Wolf list with guard allies.

Isnt it insane to have the long fangs behind an ADL and shoot you missiles while the leader splits fire and shoots the quad gun!?

This had occurred to me a couple of times. It would make more sense as a SW with guard for this list. This is a model restriction more than anything.

Oh and, you can't get the Squad leader to fire the Quad gun and split-fire. Specifically says that the squad leader can't shoot on a turn you intend to split-fire.