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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 02:36:10
Subject: Re: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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More and more mainstream outlets are doing some reporting on this. I suspect it'll pick up steam. As it should.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 02:41:54
Subject: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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sebster wrote: whembly wrote:Watch this video by Brett Beier because he summarizes the timeline really well:
Yeah, I'd just like to point out that's advice no-one should ever take. Brett Beier lies for a living, and no-one should pretend otherwise.
Is it because he's on Fox?
So... get any info on that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 02:52:50
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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The Great Wienie has heard your call, and is sending aid! now be calm and have a donut. Bengazi shmazi, now here's a conspiracy: proof a wiener dog coerced the Kaiser into WWI
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 05:30:49
Subject: Re: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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Seaward wrote:
Is it possible there was a protest and no one noticed? Yes. It is also possible there is a protest going on outside my house right now and I just haven't noticed it yet. Anything is possible. "Likely" is a whole other story.
I think the most like scenario is that all people present became "armed" once shots were fired. Automatically Appended Next Post:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 06:21:00
Subject: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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No, it's because I was thinking of James O'Keefe. No idea how I made such a stupid jump in my head.
My mistake, sorry.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 06:49:10
Subject: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Title of this thread mostly makes me not want to check it. Benghazi worse than Beirut maybe...but comparing it to Watergate. The conservative supervillians do not approve.
In rare fashion I'm waiting to find out more details, it sounds a great deal like there was some lapse in security. What no one is saying is why the Ambassador chose 9/11 to be at the consulate instead of the embassy, or at least I haven't heard it yet. It's kind of like leaving your castle to sleep in a tent in the woods on the day the Vikings sent you a note to say they would raid your demesne. So there may be failures on some levels that reach back to Washington but the guy on the ground carries some of the burden here, him being dead doesn't change that. I'm sorry that's a bit callus,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 18:29:57
Subject: Re: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Rueters getting into the act:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/03/us-usa-libya-intelligence-idUSBRE89201220121003
Within hours of last month's attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, President Barack Obama's administration received about a dozen intelligence reports suggesting militants connected to al Qaeda were involved, three government sources said.
Dang...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 18:43:27
Subject: Benghazi worse than Watergate...
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Yes, and reading beyond the bolded text like any sensible person would brings this out:
The Obama administration has strongly defended its public accounts of what happened in Benghazi, and said its understanding has evolved as additional information came in.
"At every step of the way, the administration has based its public statements on the best assessments that were provided by the intelligence community. As the intelligence community learned more information, they updated Congress and the American people on it," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.
Some officials said U.S. spy agencies tried to avoid drawing premature conclusions about how the violence began and who organized it.
"Unless you have very good reports that strongly suggest who was behind the attack for sure, it is prudent to be careful, because placing emphasis publicly, even tentatively, on any one group or groups too soon can lead everyone down the wrong path," said one official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Republicans have sought to make the shifting stories told by administration officials about the attack, and inadequate security precautions at the U.S. diplomatic site in Libya, a major issue in the presidential campaign leading up to the November 6 election.
Two House Republicans said they would hold Congress' first hearing on the matter on October 10.
It's not as damning of a news story as you seem to think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 23:48:38
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Is this something? (wished that website said "freebacon"  )
http://freebeacon.com/revolt-of-the-spooks/
Intelligence officials pointed to the statement issued Sept. 28 by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) that raised additional concern about the administration’s apparent mishandling of intelligence. The ODNI statement said that “in the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo.”
Officials say the ODNI’s false information was either knowingly disseminated or was directed to be put out by senior policy officials for political reasons, since the statement was contradicted by numerous intelligence reports at the time of the attack indicating it was al Qaeda-related terrorism.
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Officials with access to intelligence reports, based on both technical spying and human agents, said specific reporting revealed an alarming surge in clandestine al Qaeda activity months before the attack in Benghazi.
Yet the Obama administration sought to keep the information from becoming public to avoid exposing what the officials say is a Middle East policy failure by Obama.
Even the spooks have questions...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:20:37
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Google up the pictures and look at the building and vehicle. Something is not right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:29:16
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Jihadin wrote:Google up the pictures and look at the building and vehicle. Something is not right.
Really?
SO... someone cut their hands and made bloody handprints?
Or, are we talking about different things?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:36:46
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You have one blood hand print from anybody. There's no sign of an attack. The report said RPG's and mortars. Yet the rooms does not look to have RPG hit or the mortar round punch through. There's no bullet holes in the walls or brass on the ground. There's no sign of a mass attack from protesters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:38:38
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Jihadin wrote:You have one blood hand print from anybody. There's no sign of an attack. The report said RPG's and mortars. Yet the rooms does not look to have RPG hit or the mortar round punch through. There's no bullet holes in the walls or brass on the ground. There's no sign of a mass attack from protesters.
Hmmm good point...
The only thing I found were that VAN and Burning building...
Why ain't officials complaining????
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:45:49
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That vehicle pic you posted Whembly is questionable. Its not one of the vehicles that was in front of the building.
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More to it if an investigation was launch after the attack. Right now its finger pointing but it makes sense. It was a perfect environment to take out a few americans. Problem though is no one claiming it. Rumor is the guy that lead the attack was a former GITMO resident. FBI has hit the ground but only stayed three hours. Which should be no fault of their own since the attack happen quite awhile ago. The other problem is with our administration. No one on the same sheet. Why did the Consulate only have two contract security guards? There was already attempts on US lives there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 00:53:29
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Duuuude....
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/09/state_department_no_video_protest_at_the_benghazi_consulate
in a conference call with reporters Tuesday, two senior State Department officials gave a detailed accounting of the events that lead to the death of Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The officials said that prior to the massive attack on the Benghazi compound by dozens of militants carrying heavy weaponry, there was no unrest outside the walls of the compound and no protest that anyone inside the compound was aware of.
In fact, Stevens hosted a series of meetings on the compound throughout the day, ending with a meeting with a Turkish diplomat that began at 7:30 in the evening, and all was quiet in the area.
"The ambassador walked guests out at 8:30 or so; there was nobody on the street. Then at 9:40 they saw on the security cameras that there were armed men invading the compound," a senior State Department official said. "Everything is calm at 8:30 pm, there is nothing unusual. There had been nothing unusual during the day outside."
Confirmation that it has nothing to do with that youtube.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 12:32:53
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Interestingly, government now saying it never said that the attacks were tied to protests, despite syaing they were tied to protests.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/10/state-department-denies-concluding-film-sparked-consulate-attack-in-libya/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 14:55:59
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I did some investimagation, and this stumps me. The only angle I can see them arguing is that they're saying Susan Rice is not part of the State Department, since Obama upgraded her position to a cabinet level position.
I wanted to read the actual report, but I can't seem to find it on the State Department website. The news agencies seem to be cherry picking, so can't get the full thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:05:43
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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djones520 wrote:
I did some investimagation, and this stumps me. The only angle I can see them arguing is that they're saying Susan Rice is not part of the State Department, since Obama upgraded her position to a cabinet level position.
I wanted to read the actual report, but I can't seem to find it on the State Department website. The news agencies seem to be cherry picking, so can't get the full thing.
WEll all they have to do is repeat the statement ten times and it will be come the truth. You won't see the MsM scratching their heads on that much.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 06:13:31
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Imperial Admiral
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The ease with which this is going to pass out of public consciousness is going to annoy me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 13:34:37
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Seaward wrote:The ease with which this is going to pass out of public consciousness is going to annoy me.
What do you mean?
It's getting attention everywhere...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 14:19:50
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Frazzled wrote:
WEll all they have to do is repeat the statement ten times and it will be come the truth. You won't see the MsM scratching their heads on that much.
So you're saying that Fox isn't part of the "Mainstream Media"?
That seems like and odd claim, unless you agree that "MSM" is misleading shorthand for "liberal media".
And yes, where spin is concerned repetition creates truth. Note how you and many others like you repeatedly use the concept of mainstream media as though it only related to liberal media. Repeat that conflation often enough, and it eventually becomes the truth.
Well, at least the truth in the sense of being accepted as fact. Automatically Appended Next Post: djones520 wrote:
I did some investimagation, and this stumps me. The only angle I can see them arguing is that they're saying Susan Rice is not part of the State Department, since Obama upgraded her position to a cabinet level position.
What they'll say is that they never actually reached a conclusion, but instead were speaking from the perspective of an ongoing investigation. Its the distinction between saying something appears to be the case, and that something is the case.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 14:38:20
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I'm saying one channel on cable doesn't mean jack.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 14:47:27
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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What about several extremely popular websites that have been attacking the administration's claims?
"Mainstream" doesn't just mean TV anymore. Hell, its been years since broadcast news has been anything beyond explicit reporting outside of local interest stories.
If you want journalistic content, you watch Fox, MSNBC, or CNN; or you read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 15:23:01
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I saw MSNBC and then I had to stop. You're such a comedian this morning!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 15:27:21
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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... picking up steam...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/10/10/Benghazhi-White-House-Cover-Up-or-Just-Incompetence.aspx#page1
...it’s hard to argue that the cover-up is worse than the “crime” of incompetence that led up to it. After all, four people died in that attack, and perhaps even a higher level of security might not have prevented it. It has become clear, though, that the State Department didn’t recognize that Benghazi and its environs had become a nest of the very terrorists we now fight in places like Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, and other hot spots, and that this was no ordinary case for consular security. Instead of listening to people on the ground and acting to provide some kind of extraordinary security, the Benghazi mission was left to just “hope that everything would get better.”
Incompetence...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 15:31:53
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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No those moneys were needed for more important things, like green cars in Vienna.
Why did we even have a consulate outpost in Benghazi in the first place?
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 15:37:54
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Benghazi.... Fast and Furious II?
As in, the right will cling to it like angry weiner dogs, while everyone else just kind of shuffles on in a zombie like stare?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 15:57:18
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Easy E wrote:Benghazi.... Fast and Furious II?
As in, the right will cling to it like angry weiner dogs, while everyone else just kind of shuffles on in a zombie like stare?
Since you mentioned wiener dogs. She Who Must Be Obeyed called to tell me she has renamed TBone "snackwhore" for his unceasing efforts in his bucket list to gain 12 lb before the C finally gets him.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 16:06:07
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Frazzled wrote: Easy E wrote:Benghazi.... Fast and Furious II?
As in, the right will cling to it like angry weiner dogs, while everyone else just kind of shuffles on in a zombie like stare?
Since you mentioned wiener dogs. She Who Must Be Obeyed called to tell me she has renamed TBone "snackwhore" for his unceasing efforts in his bucket list to gain 12 lb before the C finally gets him.
If TBone goes after liberals... he just might!
I keed, I keed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 17:09:35
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I was under the impression that the administration has been saying that the attack was not because of the movie pretty early on.
The only connection they said it had to the movie protest was that they used it as a diversion, with more and more evidence shoving that there was no protest.
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