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Hello

im looking to start up a tyranid army but making it quite elite & low in model count

This is my first time writing a list for tyranids so have gone for what other people have suggested etc

so heres the list for c&c

HQ
Hive Tyrant, Lash Whip & Bonesword, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Old Adversary – 210pts
Hive Tyrant, Lash Whip & Bonesword, Wings – 230pts
HQ Total = 440pts

Elites
2 Hive Guard Brood – 100pts
2 Hive Guard Brood – 100pts
3 Zoanthrope Brood – 180pts
Elites Total = 380pts

Troops
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Death Spitters = 105pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, 3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
Troops Total = 465pts

Heavy Support
Trygon – 200pts
Tyrannofex, Rupture Cannon, Shreddershard Bettles – free = 265pts
HQ Total = 465pts


Main Total – 1750pts

I personally wouldnt include Tyrannofex.
Armies with lots of lascannons, ML, meltaguns, plasma guns etc will take heavy toll on your army in shooting

what do you suggest i add instead?

At first glance i would get ride on the lash whips and bone sword on your flyrant. He needs to go out of swooping mode to use his CC I think you would be better off by going all shooting with him. try 2 x twinliked devourers. Your warrior broods are a little small. They also need a prime to make them truely effective. Not sure I like this list. I have't played anything like it before but to me it doesn't look like it would last. I too wouldn't use the tyranofex. I'd add in a second trygon instead. Giving them TS makes them reroll both to hit and to wound

Ok cheers for the responses

made a few changes as you suggested (it might not last but itll be fun to play whilst its on the table)

HQ
Hive Tyrant, Lash Whip & Bonesword, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Old Adversary – 210pts
Hive Tyrant, x2 Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings – 260pts
HQ Total = 470pts

Elites
2 Hive Guard Brood – 100pts
2 Hive Guard Brood – 100pts
3 Zoanthrope Brood – 180pts
Elites Total = 380pts

Troops
4 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x4 Rending Claws, x4 Death Spitters = 160pts
4 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x4 Rending Claws, x4 Death Spitters = 160pts
4 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x4 Rending Claws, x4 Death Spitters = 160pts
Troops Total = 480pts

Heavy Support
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
HQ Total = 420pts

Main Total – 1750pts

For sure a fun list. With only 3 troop choices you will be pretty limited. S8 spam weapons will have a field day vs those warriors. Once they are gone you can't win objective games (5of6). I know you are avoiding little creatures but a Tervigon would be a nice addition to hold objectives and cast some FnP on your trygons. They tervigon itself is massive so it fits your theme. Only thing is her spawn. Totally up to you. Try the list out and see where it needs work.
Good luck

New list is better. Personally I would have kept the Tyrannofex but converted from a tank hunter to a linebreaker build. The Fleshborer Hive is nice Assault 20 bolt pistol, and the Cluster Spines make a nice large blast marker. It will draw weapon fire like a magnet letting the Trygon and Warriors get much farther down field un-harassed.

This could be fun, however it could also be a nightmare. First, the second Hive Tyrant either needs Armoured Shell or Wings. Walking him up the board with his 3+ save just paints ML target all over him. The biggest issue is the Troops; I understand the flavor of this list, but relying on Warriors as your troops is difficult at best. It's just so stinking easy to double tough them, and Vindicators will just eat them for lunch.

Ok hows this look then

HQ
Hive Tyrant, Lash Whip & Bonesword, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Old Adversary, Armoured Shell = 250pts
Hive Tyrant, x2 Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings – 260pts
HQ Total = 510pts

Elites
3 Hive Guard Brood -150pts
3 Zoanthrope Brood – 180pts
Elites Total = 330pts

Troops
11 Termagaunts – 55pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
Tervigon, Adrenal Glands, Toxic Sacs, Catalyst = 195pts
Troops Total = 490pts

Heavy Support
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
HS Total = 420pts

Main Total – 1750pts

I watched a force similar to this be shot to pieces on a necron gun line the other night. The nid player held alot of their force in reserve and when it did turn up it was in dribs and drabs and didn't focus their assault in one area.

The result was all the monsterous creatures were shot up with mainly S4 weapons with a few heavy weapons and lone characters to finish them off in close combat.

It will certainly look intimidating but you need to be careful with how you play it.

I think if you want to go down this route, Flying Hive Tyrants aren't a good option.
Without thinking too much about points (so this could be way over) i'd probably try and fit in something like this:
2 Tyranid Primes
3x2 Hive Guard
2 or 3x 5 Warriors
1 or 2 Tervigons
1 or 2 10x bare termagants
Ravaners
1 or 2 trygons.

Lots of problems for this kind of list as already suggested. Melta up close will destroy you, ML and LC, GK autocannons etc will destroy you from range. Plasma is also very effective against all kinds of larger Nids. But I think with 2 or 3 bigger Warriors squads, with the primes to make them better at shooting, plus Tervigon or two to spawn, Ravaners to DS up close to the enemy you have more room to manoeuvre.

 skycapt44 wrote:
S8 spam weapons will have a field day vs those warriors

To be fair, S8 Spam can usually have a field day with most units in the game, though I see your points - advantage of Swarms of gaunts, they absorb lots of firepower.

I see a major advantage of doing a Warrior Heavy Army, is nearly all of your units have synapse, which is a plus. Your games will also go faster, which will be a plus for tournament play. Plus, if I did nids, I'd do a list similar to this, as i love to get in the opponents face and eat them with Nids.

daismith906 wrote:
Ok hows this look then

HQ
Hive Tyrant, Lash Whip & Bonesword, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Old Adversary, Armoured Shell = 250pts
Hive Tyrant, x2 Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings – 260pts
HQ Total = 510pts

Elites
3 Hive Guard Brood -150pts
3 Zoanthrope Brood – 180pts
Elites Total = 330pts

Troops
11 Termagaunts – 55pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood, x3 Rending Claws, x3 Death Spitters = 120pts
Tervigon, Adrenal Glands, Toxic Sacs, Catalyst = 195pts
Troops Total = 490pts

Heavy Support
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
Trygon, Toxic Sacs = 210pts
HS Total = 420pts

Main Total – 1750pts

Pretty good list. I see 2 changes that might make it more survivable. Given that you are not running a Prime and have a Trevigon to spawn troops, I think making the two 3 Warrior broods in to a single 6 warrior brood, then drop 1 Zoanthrope for a pod would be a good move. Toss the left over points into either beefing the Termie brood or upgrading the Trevigon.