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^ Truth.

Just accept is as the nature of GW. You really think they haven't though of this "problem"?

Hint: They don't give a feth.

Neither should you.

Discuss with opponent.

For the record, if someone wants to keep their pod doors up then by golly I let them. Maybe it will backfire on them and I can save an Aspiring Sorcerer by hiding behind it or something.

If someone wants to keep pod doors up I'm okay with it, however I will expect every pod they ever use to have those doors up.

Same goes for doors down, every pod will always have doors down unless they physically can't fit.

The way I'd interpret this is as follows:

Once a drop pod lands a unit must disembark, however not everyone keeps their drop pod doors with the ability to open, some glue them shut for physical transport of models etc, but once it lands I would treat it as if any unit can draw line of sight through it as the doors would technically have to 'blow open' to let guys out.

Open or shut you can draw LoS through it from both his side and yours as they are always regarded as open, but you will both recieve cover saves etc.

You cannot change if they are open or shut at any point.

To me it sounds like this guy was out of order or just didn't really know the rules, but if it was me I would have let you shoot through no problem as this is pretty common sense I think.

Personally I'd go with true line of sight for a closed drop pod. I might call the other guy a bit of an ass if it looks like he did it to game himself some cover to prevent LOS but it is too hard to work out true LOS when you have a model blocking it.
The other thing is that with all the crap in the middle of a drop pod it is hard to draw los a lot of the time even with the doors open.

didnt think this topic would get this far. Just wanted a simple answer lol

this is ymdc, there is no simple answer

 pizzaguardian wrote:
this is ymdc, there is no simple answer

Except when there is.

This maybe adding fuel to the fire or foreshadowing of things to come, but the Drop Pod Assault rule changed in the Horus Heresy book I for the Marine Legion list. Without a long verbatum quote the changes are as follows (p208):

Units who purchased Drop Pods as transports must always be depolyed in them.

As soon as a Drop Pod is deployed its doors are automatically opened to their full extent.


This is not a clear answer to normal 6th Ed, but maybe a view in to intent and the future codex.

Horus Heresy is a Warhammer 40k variant that while it uses many of the same rules also makes changes. As it is there is no actual rule (barring Tourney rules) in standard 40K that says a Drop Pods doors must open.

I completely agree. I'm just pointing out the change. And the Hersey book uses all the same rules with very little modifacations. One could easily play a Legion list against codex lists and just not use the few modifacations.

But this also seems like a silly thing to change that doesn't really make sense (no comments on GW making sense). The rule changes in the Heresy book is done to bring the list in line with fluff of the Legions. Neither of these changes seem to do that.

All said I wouldn't be surprised if the next C:SM has these changes also.

I'd be surprised if they forced marines to deploy in the pods. That'd be a pretty big change.

It's how they started out...

 insaniak wrote:
It's how they started out...

You and your truthiness!! :-)

Why would you be suprised? The only reason it can be done now is that there is no requirement for the buying unit to be deployed in in a D. Transport.

The change would make more sense, fluffwise.

And if they did it with the new rules it really wouldnt be that bad, there is a lot less chance of your units dying in a deepstrike mishap now than in 5th ed.