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Space Wolves
HQ
Runepriest, chooser of the slain, living lightning, jaws of the world wolf 110pts

Elites
Wolf guard pack,5x standard, all terminator armor, dedicated transport, land raider crusader with multimelta 425
Wolf scouts 5x with sniper rifles 105pts

Troops
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts

Heavy support
Long fang pack, 1 sgt, 5x Missile launcher, razorback with storm bolter 190pts
Vindicator 115pts
Vindicator 115pts


Imperial Guard
HQ
Command squad, company commander, 2x lasgun, 1x lascannon 70 pts

Troops
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 8x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher 75 pts
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 6x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher, 1x heavy bolter 85pts

Fast attack
Vendetta gunship, 2 twin linked lascannons on wings, and sponson heavy bolters 140pts

I like SW with IG the only thing i didnt like was the 2 Vindicator i would choose 2 more LF

I am not sure what IG are bringing for you besides a Vendetta and a couple cheap scoring units. I agree with Dreal that Vindicators don't really fit in this list. The reason why is you have not other tanks for them to get cover from, and they are not going to help your podded troops turn 1 because of their short range. I'd drop the vindicators, pick up 1 squad of long fangs, and add an aegis + gun an IG squad to fire. If you can spare some more points make the air vets not completely worthless when they get out. 3x plasma, melta, or grenade launchers even. Gotta do something with them or don't bother yah know?

I agree the palins now kills SW for easy so aegis with the gun is a gooooood choose us matters the guards i dont know they are only to take OBJ so fir me it is nt nesessary to upgrade them

i think the vindicators give a good ap2 support, plus its template

 Jarl Marius wrote:
i think the vindicators give a good ap2 support, plus its template

Thats true but I have to agree with the others. There not as good a choice as other things you can take in a SW/IG list. Take more fangs. Also why the razorback for the long fangs? Seems like a waste as you wont move very much.

Imperial Guard
HQ
Command squad, company commander, 2x lasgun, 1x lascannon 70 pts

Troops
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 8x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher 75 pts
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 6x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher, 1x heavy bolter 85pts

Fast attack
Vendetta gunship, 2 twin linked lascannons on wings, and sponson heavy bolters 140pts

Your CCS seems adequate, although 1 LC in a list that can take ML spamming long-fangs seems pointless. You seem to be missing plasma in your list, so maybe 4x plasma guns, a plasma pistol (or two) and throw them in a chimera for some mobile anti-TEQ.

The veterans are crap. Give them something other than literally the worst weapons available to them. Grenade launchers suck. Suck so hard. Give them melta or plasma. Similarly, heavy bolters aren't great, try out an auto-cannon. Also, where are they going? 10 guardsmen aren't in power armor, they die without a metal box or come decent cover. That is, chimera them up, throw them in fliers or get an ADL. Plasma vets would work great with a mobile CCS too, since you can get out and recieve "FOMT" from the CCS still in the transport. Remember, you only need one troop choice for allies, so instead of two crap squads, make it one good squad.

One Vendetta isn't going to do a lot. It'll just make your opponents AA worth taking. You need 2 or more for the flier to be effective. The HB sponsons on them aren't great, just mixing weaponary, keep them vanilla or if you want anti-horde get a multiple rocket pod valkyrie with HB sponsons... or even Long Fangs for something much better. If you want anti-tank, then you don't need the HBs, but still; you need more than one flier for them to be worth it. It works like rhinos/razobacks/chimeras/trukks/whatever. Target saturation so the weapons designed to take them out can't deal with them. You can take 3 in a squadron, and I regularly bring 2 and a valkyrie with wolves as my allies. Works great.


On a side note: Why the hell would you put sniper rifles on wolf-scouts?! That's insane. If you want snipers, put them on the crappy grenade launcher vets.

my idea with the IG was:

command squad: camp in corner or other nice spot with las cannon
1 vet squad(HB one) goes in the vendetta and get dropped off on objective for temporary holding, other squad moves towards where its needed, might be LF if ifantry is getting near, or to the GH, they will never be the priority target so i dont worry much about them

the vendetta is pretty much there for anti flyer, and if possible some armor popping

 Jarl Marius wrote:
Space Wolves
HQ
Runepriest, chooser of the slain, living lightning, jaws of the world wolf 110pts

Elites
Wolf guard pack,5x standard, all terminator armor, dedicated transport, land raider crusader with multimelta 425
Wolf scouts 5x with sniper rifles 105pts

Troops
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts
Grey hunter pack, 10x grey hunter, drop pod, 2x meltagun 190pts

Heavy support
Long fang pack, 1 sgt, 5x Missile launcher, razorback with storm bolter 190pts
Vindicator 115pts
Vindicator 115pts


Imperial Guard
HQ
Command squad, company commander, 2x lasgun, 1x lascannon 70 pts

Troops
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 8x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher 75 pts
Veteran squad, veteran sergeant, 6x lasgun, 1x grenade launcher, 1x heavy bolter 85pts

Fast attack
Vendetta gunship, 2 twin linked lascannons on wings, and sponson heavy bolters 140pts

I like the list for the most part, but I'd suggest a couple changes. The 2 Vet squads are very immobile and vulnerable, they need some cover. Also, while Vindis are awesome, you might want another squad of Long Fangs (a single squad is good, but not "great" ). The scouts are also a bit unnecessary. Here's a proposed revision, feel free to change it how you will (or ignore it completely):

HQ
Rune Priest (Chooser of the Slain)
Company Command Squad (L3x Flamers, 1x Heavy Flamer, Camo Cloaks)

ELITES
5x Wolf Guard (Terminator Armour, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter, Land Raider Redeemer with Multimelta)

TROOPS
10x Grey Hunters (2x Melta, Drop Pod)
10x Grey Hunters (2x Melta, Drop Pod)
10x Grey Hunters (2x Melta, Drop Pod)
10x Veterans (Lascannon)
10x Veterans (Lascannon)

FAST ATTACK
Vendetta Gunship

HEAVY SUPPORT
6x Long Fangs (5x Missile Launcher)
6x Long Fangs (5x Missile Launcher)
Vindicator (Storm Bolter)

FORTIFICATION
Aegis Defence Line (Quad Gun)

TOTAL: 2000pts

The Rune Priest should probably be with the Long Fangs and therefore should get the Divination Discipline so he can give them Prescience. Figured I'd put the Wolf Guard in a Redeemer to save 10pts. The Company Commander should be manning the Quad Gun, the squad's Camo Cloaks will give them better cover saves, and the flamers are in case they get charged. The other Veteran Squads should try to camp backfield objectives. All-in-all, it should be a hard-hitting army with some fluffy choices (the Wolf Guard and Vindicator). I'd just see if the Grey Hunters can do well enough on their own before the Wolf Guard come to lend a hand - watch they don't get destroyed on arrival.

that sounds good, though there are some reasons i cant make some changes, just not having some models you suggest

and well, money isnt infinite atm, so good suggestions for future purchases