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that's tall

Did you mean to say "That's tall"?

Fair 'nuff.

There are some good deals in this campaign, but I think I'm going to have to draw the line where I am now!

Luckily I am 'only' interested in:

1) Angelcynn
2) Fomor
3) Norse
4) Byzantii

though I am sorely tempted by:

5) Brython

I was initially going to go for the Gesith Encounter Host, but I think that would be the only "Wave 3" item I'd have, so I'm probably going to go for the Legionary Encounter Host instead, and pick up the Gesiths down the road a bit.

If I only want things to ship when ready in Wave 1 and Wave 2, all I have to add is £20, right?

Yeah, £10 shipping for the pledge itself, and an extra £10 for the wave 1 stuff to be shipped when it's ready.

Yeah. I'm torn between how to have my stuff shipped as well.

Hmm, looking at RRP vs. pledge cost I'll probably limit myself to wave one stuff (feth, I'm buying as much as I can afford and then some anyway...) and pick up the later stuff retail - free shipping with orders over 50 quid (having a pound sign on US intl layout would not go amiss, dammit) will probably make that at worst about as expensive anyway. That's an easy choice to make for someone who can't afford enough of this stuff in either case, though

another Werewulfa (one of the KS1 unit I think)


Wulfric of tamtun

I'm already in for quite a bit on this one, but I don't think this one will see too much of a spike unless something amazing is revealed/offered.

Something like if you spend £(X) you will receive (Y), with (X) being £300 and (Y) being an Encounter Host or something similar.

On the other hand, the average per backer on this one is already an amazing £233, so...maybe Mierce is good with where this is at and the pace it is moving at!

That's me done, £183 for sweet spot and hopefully the mountain troll, monstrous general if not. Not a penny more either : )

I've taken the unprecedented step of pledging so much I'll not be able to pay off the whole CC bill at the end of the month,

close but not quite

I just had to add a mountain troll

sigh why is money so tight right now (answer, higher bills + KS + nothing left to ebay)

 Bolognesus wrote:
Hmm, looking at RRP vs. pledge cost I'll probably limit myself to wave one stuff (feth, I'm buying as much as I can afford and then some anyway...) and pick up the later stuff retail - free shipping with orders over 50 quid (having a pound sign on US intl layout would not go amiss, dammit) will probably make that at worst about as expensive anyway. That's an easy choice to make for someone who can't afford enough of this stuff in either case, though

Yeah, I noticed that as well. 80 retail vs. 70 pledge on the giant means I could get him cheaper at release through The Warstore.

Hmm. That could be a conundrum.

However, there's been more than one situation with the first KS (Aradae Mawr, for example!) where models turned out larger/more complex than expected and RRP's were substantially adjusted. Get it now, and you're safe

I'm in the same boat, I'll be buying more of this stuff at 90% from mierce direct next year, the stuff I want and I'm putting money on now has a decent saving, eg 25% on the mountain troll, or is already done (sweet spot trolls are ready and can be shipped pronto, the other stuff in that pledge adds up to a decent discount).

There's a load more that I want but given the completion dates and my budget I don't feel compelled to buy right now, better to wait until the stuff is available, or even KS3, whichever.

...Well, as long as you still overspend on other stuff this KS, we won't hold it against you

Just when I thought I was safe, and my pledge was securely locked down:

Creator Mierce Miniatures 20 minutes ago

@Jib - working on it right now... will post an update tonight with more unlockable encounter hosts and skirmish hosts, plus a battle host or two, but there won't be any graphics until tomorrow (if there will be at all - might just be putting stretch goals up!!)

Formoraic Skirmish host please! Hmm....actually if that happens that could be another £3-400 on the table from me....bah, you only live once*

*By once I mean until the wife sees yet another package arrive

 Baragash wrote:
Formoraic Skirmish host please! Hmm....actually if that happens that could be another £3-400 on the table from me....bah, you only live once*

*By once I mean until the wife sees yet another package arrive

Get it sent to my house, I'll make sure you get it.....honest.

Hosts mean possible discounts

do check, you may find you can save £5-10 compared to individual picks (or pick up an extra mini you weren't going to get for nothing extra)

and then spend your savings on more minis, obviously

The KS could really use an extra incentive to spend a bit more now rather than later. I'm in for a bit, but am waiting until later to actually get some of the models (the Gabrax likely). That entitles me to Wave 1 now, and Gabrax later (depending on how the sculpts are looking). Even if they weren't to offer them later at the same price, I'd be able to get the figures somewhere at that price (only about 15% off).

They should add a bonus of a 10 pound figure of member's choice for free to people who are spending at least 150 (I know there's Danillo Cruz, but that doesn't really do it for me).

I'm glad I bought a few last figures from the KS1 section last weekend, since the prices were so much better.

Almost all of the sculptors have been announced now (Benoit Cosse for the Gabrax) so I have confidence in the sculpt quality based on that and Mierce's history.

As to why buy now? You likely won't find anything again at a much better price and if we don't hit stretches as part of this KS they will likely not get a look in until KS3.

Update, lots of (potential) hosts (I've Re-arranged things to put them in order of availability rather than alphabetical)

Unlockable Encounter Hosts

These encounter hosts, of course, really do depend upon the stretch goals being reached; but if you pledge for them now, it's much more likely that they'll be unlocked. That's the Kickstarter conundrum!

Please note that these, like the other unlockable encounter hosts, may be included within a "THE SWEET SPOT" reward.

KHTHONES (£140,000)
GORGÓRAR ENCOUNTER HOST (£80)
◾Theliatiss, Gorgórix
◾Dawn of Khthon, Gorgórar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £140,000)

BRYTHONIAID (£150,000)
TEULU ENCOUNTER HOST (£80)
◾Urien, Uchelwyr of Môn
◾Loyal Guard, Teulu unit - 10x Teulu (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors) (unlocked at £150,000)
◾Aradae Mawr, Pencawrdraig of Dugadw

ALBAINN (£160,000)
GAIMORLOM ENCOUNTER HOST (£80)
◾Ciniod, Umaer of Dun Durn
◾Spears of Dun Durn, Gaimorlom unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £160,000)
◾Magágg, Wild Oghurüc

YSIANS (£170,000)
SHADOW ENCOUNTER HOST (£90)
◾Hedroc of Carn Maen, Battle-Drune
◾Shadows of Carn Bran, Knife-Drune unit (champion, 4 warriors) (unlocked at £170,000)
◾Shadows of Carn Bran, Knife-Drune unit (champion, 4 warriors) (unlocked at £170,000)
◾Bows of Carn Dinas, Bow-Drune unit (champion, 4 warriors)
◾Seza, Blade-Abhorrent

FOMORAIC (£180,000)
MALLAX ENCOUNTER HOST - £90
◾Aalvór, Mallax Tain
◾Grunting Mallax, Mallax unit (champion, banner bearer, 3 warriors) (unlocked at £180,000)

ALBAINN (£190,000)
OGHURITHNE ENCOUNTER HOST (£80)
◾Bagseg, Oghurithne Umaer
◾Oghu Keepers, Oghurithne unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £190,000)



Unlockable Skirmish Hosts

Again, these skirmish hosts really do depend upon the stretch goals being reached; but if you pledge for them now, it's much more likely that they'll be unlocked. That's the Kickstarter conundrum!

FOMORAIC (£130,000)
HOOF AND HORN SKIRMISH HOST (£160)
◾Chaagmuth the Jaw-Taker, Gabrax Tain
◾Aanchuth the Cursed, Gabrax Warlock
◾Baagath's Herd, Gabrax unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors) (unlocked at £130,000)
◾Bellowing Tarvax, Tarvax unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Báintaac, Vicious Toracx
◾Praach, Gabrox

KHTHONES (£140,000)
ONCE-SLAVES OF KHTHON SKIRMISH HOST (£180)
◾Xontór, Gorgon of Khthon
◾Svrill, Gorgonargós
◾Warriors of Khthon, Gorgonar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors)
◾Dawn of Khthon, Gorgórar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors) (unlocked at £140,000)

BRYTHONIAID (£150,000)
ANCIENT PACT SKIRMISH HOST (£180)
◾Urien, Uchelwyr of Môn
◾Ffion Ferddig, Bard of Gwynedd
◾Loyal Guard, Teulu unit - 10x Teulu (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors) (unlocked at £150,000)
◾Dyndreigiau of Gwaelod, Dyndraig unit - 5x Dyndraig (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Glaun, Tarwdraig of Cynfelyn

ALBAINN (£190,000)
DUN DURN SKIRMISH HOST (£160)
◾Itaina, Umaer of Dun Durn
◾Domnech, Sagart of Dun Durn
◾ Spears of Dun Durn, Gaimorlom unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £160,000)
◾Oghu Keepers, Oghurithne unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £190,000)
◾Cormorágg, Savage Oghurüc

Battle Hosts

Battle hosts are very large armies of warriors for Darklands - around 2,500 gold - and as such are quite expensive to purchase. They're here out of a sense of completeness and also for those who have money to spend!

Some of these battle hosts really do depend upon the stretch goals being reached; but if you pledge for them now, it's much more likely that they'll be unlocked. That's the Kickstarter conundrum!

ANGELCYNN (Available Now)
WOLVES OF MIERCE BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Penda the Bloody-Handed, Warrior-King of Mierce on Horse
◾Cynemon, Wiglere of Mierce
◾Wulfhere, Fane Bearer of Mierce
◾Hrór, Wælwulf Thegn
◾Wolfborn, Gesíth unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Veterans of Mierce, Duguth unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 12x warriors)
◾Veterans of Mierce, Duguth unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 12x warriors)
◾Werwulf unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors)
◾Werwulf unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors)
◾Creoda, Gúthwulf
◾Cnebba, Mægenwulf

NORSE (Available Now)
HRAFNEN BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Knútr of Víkin, Skipari of Hrafnen on Horse
◾Kjartan of Jylland, Vane-Bearer of Hrafnen
◾Víthar, Erilaz of Hrafnen
◾Jörmungand, Troll Jarl
◾Hrafnen Crew, Holumann unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Hrafnen Crew, Holumann unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Hrafnen Crew, Holumann unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Troll unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Troll unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Mälmord, Mountain Troll
◾Mjagnir, Jötunn

YSIANS
DRUNES OF CARN DHU, BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Carrowek of Carn Dhu, War-Drune on Drune-Horse
◾Zethag of Carn Dhu, Harvest-Drune
◾Mawdred of Carn Dhu, An-Kern-Drune
◾Jowan of Carn Dhu, Hound-Master (Jowan, 7x hounds)
◾Axes of Carn Dhu, Ax-Drune unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Axes of Carn Dhu, Ax-Drune unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors)
◾Bows of Carn Maen, Bow-Drune unit (champion, 9x warriors)
◾Bows of Carn Maen, Bow-Drune unit (champion, 9x warriors)
◾Goaders of Ys, Goad-Drune unit (champion, 2x warriors)
◾Goaders of Ys, Goad-Drune unit (champion, 2x warriors)
◾Brutes of Ys, Brute unit (champion, 4x warriors)
◾The Terror of Fortriu, Chimaera

FOMORAIC (£130,000)
THE WILD HORDE BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Chaagmuth the Jaw-Taker, Gabrax Untain on Toracx
◾Daachuch, Gabrax Skull-Bearer
◾Aanchuth, Warlock of Baalor
◾Ckaarakk, Tarvax Tain
◾ Baagath's Herd, Gabrax unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors) (unlocked at £130,000)
◾ Baagath's Herd, Gabrax unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 7x warriors) (unlocked at £130,000)
◾ Bellowing Tarvax, Tarvax unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾ Bellowing Tarvax, Tarvax unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Roaring Srónax, Srónax unit (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Praach, Gabrox
◾Maaru, Swordtooth
◾Galagaak, Raging Tarvox

KHTHONES (£140,000)
THE REVOLT OF KHTHON, BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Ophios, Gorgon of Khthon
◾Svrill, Gorgonargós
◾Hanokh, Kentarch of Ýdron
◾Pétroyos, Lískarchon
◾ Warriors of Khthon, Gorgonar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors)
◾ Warriors of Khthon, Gorgonar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors)
◾ Dawn of Khthon, Gorgórar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors) (unlocked at £140,000)
◾ Dawn of Khthon, Gorgórar unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2x warriors) (unlocked at £140,000)
◾Kadámastar, Ancient Devourer
◾Chysperis, Fídron of Khthon

BRYTHONIAID (£150,000)
MAN AND DRAGON BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Urien, Teyrn of Môn on Horse
◾Hywel Hir, Banner Bearer of Gwynedd
◾Caedoc, Abad of Becelert
◾Angedern, Prifdyndraig of Gwaelod
◾Loyal Guard, Teulu unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 13x warriors) (unlocked at £150,000)
◾Loyal Guard, Teulu unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 13x warriors) (unlocked at £150,000)
◾Dyndreigiau of Gwaelod, Dyndraig unit - 5x Dyndraig (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Dyndreigiau of Gwaelod, Dyndraig unit - 5x Dyndraig (champion, banner bearer, 3x warriors)
◾Angrislaug, Draiggoch of Eryri

ALBAINN (£190,000)
HOST OF DUN DURN UNLOCKABLE BATTLE HOST (£400)
◾Dúngal, Mormaer of Dun Durn on Horse
◾ Domnech, Sagart of Dun Durn
◾Drast the Hunched, Host Banner Bearer
◾Bagseg, Oghurithne Umaer
◾ Spears of Dun Durn, Gaimorlom unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 12 warriors) (unlocked at £160,000)
◾ Spears of Dun Durn, Gaimorlom unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 12 warriors) (unlocked at £160,000)
◾ Oghu Keepers, Oghurithne unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £190,000)
◾Oghu Keepers, Oghurithne unit (champion, banner bearer, herald, 2 warriors) (unlocked at £190,000)
◾ Cormorágg, Savage Oghurüc
◾Gomagg, Giant

...and that's that!

These are official!

It must be noted, that whilst there's no graphics here, these are most definitely official and will be available both now and during the pledge management process. The only ones that will not be available are those that simply cannot be unlocked due to their components' stretch goals not being met.

Enjoy!

 azreal13 wrote:

 Baragash wrote:
Formoraic Skirmish host please! Hmm....actually if that happens that could be another £3-400 on the table from me....bah, you only live once*

*By once I mean until the wife sees yet another package arrive

Get it sent to my house, I'll make sure you get it.....honest.

Grat idea, thanks

Hang on a minute..............

Well I've talked myself up another £200 or so to just over £800 by including monies for post-KS discount shopping.

:( They won't be unlocking stretches after the finish (unless it's really close), so half of those new stretches won't get unlocked. Too bad.

Would be nice to get all the regular infantry unlocked. 160k isn't totally unrealistic (not counting the scout Drunes at 170k, as they have 2-3 infantry units already), but it will take some doing.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Hmm. That could be a conundrum.

However, there's been more than one situation with the first KS (Aradae Mawr, for example!) where models turned out larger/more complex than expected and RRP's were substantially adjusted. Get it now, and you're safe

Rob said in the future they will have a price increase for all models and the KS price has already taken that into account.

Presumably, the MSRP they're listing takes that into account (it's not a great idea to hide how much your consumers will be saving ).

The Mallax Fomoraic host is probably out of reach in this KS, but it's a thing that would make me up my pledge in no time.

Only 6 hours left, but I think the Gabrax unit should make it in, right? Only 4K to go for that.

The campaign did really well, and it's smart of them not to give away the farm... too many KS do that, and then have no means of expanding / continuing development afterwards. Hopefully this will continue on strong

 RiTides wrote:
Only 6 hours left, but I think the Gabrax unit should make it in, right? Only 4K to go for that.

I reckon so. Hopefully, we'll get to £140k for the snakes...