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'Free' minis seemed to be tied to units at the moment, and I'm sure that each unit will get a free add on, so it depends what youre plannin to pick up.

 zedmeister wrote:
For example, if you want the loyal guard 5 man unit only, you pledge £10, add in £22 to cover the extra for £32 total and get an free extra character with it after the last stretch goal.

Plus another £10 in shipping later... for a total of £42.

Whereas, on the website I could spend £8 more, all on miniatures, and have none of it go towards shipping because I can get free shipping at £50... that obliterates the extra 5% discount being offered for "Bronze" here, and makes it significantly More expensive to buy them through the KS instead of off the web page! Maybe the extra mini makes it a wash...?

Basically, it's not cheaper to pledge here than order on the website unless you can pledge £100+, and even then it's not a slam dunk depending on how many waves you're planning to have things shipped in. As I don't have $165 free to allocate towards this right now, this leaves no incentive to dip my toe in... the end result will be Mierce getting more money from their existing fans, but not drawing in many new ones, imo.

This was also true in many ways of their last campaign, but at least they had pledges that weren't over $165 that were somewhat decent. There is absolutely no incentive for someone to pledge here, rather than wait and order from the webstore, unless they can spend $165... and that's not helpful for drawing in new supporters to the world / game.

bananaman wrote:
If you buy a unit with an unlocked free mini as part of your £100 pledge then you do get a free mini.

As it says on the tin, Tonsured Caedoc is FREE if you have purchased the Loyal Guard, Teulu Unit (whichever way you've bought it!)

Ah, there it is!

Thanks - not sure how I missed it...

I wonder what this could be hinting at:

the possibility to get your hands on further deals and offers as the project continues

 plastictrees wrote:
'Free' minis seemed to be tied to units at the moment, and I'm sure that each unit will get a free add on, so it depends what youre plannin to pick up.

That makes more sense, thanks...

But still, if this was their idea of a "simpler / easier to navigate" campaign, I'm not sure what complex is

Perhaps they meant from their side, I can't imagine how much of a nightmare dispatch was for the last KS!

I love the minis again. I spent a few hundred on the previous kickstarters and despite being sorely tempted once more I'll probably pass on KS3. In addition to not being so flush atm I don't think there's as much value to the proposition this time around. Good luck though, hopefully we'll see a load more quality stuff added to the range.

Also worth pointing out that while the Bronze level discount for minis made via this KS is only 10%

you also get 20% off existing minis

(I'm guessing it does not include the yet to be released KS2 stuff but I could be wrong on that)

so while going gold is really important to get best value on these new minis, if all you want to do is pick up existing stuff bronze is ok too

That's a fair point, Orlando, although 10 pounds shipping still hurts if you just want to pick up a mini or two- most orders I place with miniatures companies in the UK charge less than that for a very small parcel.

Anyone know the difference between KS2.5's "Eoric's Pack of Werwulfas" and KS1's "Werwulf Unit" will be?

Asked and answered!

Creator Mierce Miniatures 3 minutes ago

@Alpharius - Wælwulfas (KS1) are more feral and don't wield weapons; they're on 50mm bases, about 50mm tall to the eye. Werwulfas (this one) are less feral and wield weapons and armour. They're on 40mm bases and are around 40mm tall to the eye.

As no one's posted these, and it's not a KS thread without lots of updates, I present the five updates we've had so far:

Update #1

Update #2

Update #3

Update #4

Update #5

Now I don't see anyone commenting it but am I the only one who doesn't really like the fact that the free minis are the same like the previous KS, with shlight changes? Even if they are a bit different and maybe unique for this KS, I find it a little unfair for people who bought these miniatures in the previous KS to be awarded with the same minis in this one.

While I might prefer to be given something completely different the sculptors Mierce uses are not cheap and with £10K gaps between the units there would not be enough 'spare' to pay for a full new mini (and the concept art for it)

By making these 'changed up' versions of existing minis that have already been paid for they can do them cheaply enough and afford to make them KS (and convention) exclusive. A nice little nod to those who back the KS, but nothing for retail buyers to get too hung up on not being able to get

Cæna.

Can we all please take a minute to drink in the awesomeness that concept, and consider what a unit of giant bear infantry could look like on the table.

To be honest, I hadn't even thought about that. Though I have no issues with getting a different pose / sculpt of an existing figure as part of this KS.

After all, even though everyone has a name in the setting when it comes to the musters they're just regular guys for the most part.

Though if this continues (which it likely will), I'd rather see alternate sculpts of some of the other characters for the Angelcynn and Ysian goals, but that's down to Timoth and Gondard not really wowing me with their concept art. (I still added them, for completions sake)

 azreal13 wrote:
Cæna.

Can we all please take a minute to drink in the awesomeness that concept, and consider what a unit of giant bear infantry could look like on the table.

By the end, there's almost no doubt I'll be in for Cæna - and if they release 2 more versions to fill out the unit at 3?

Uh oh!

I'd peg him as the unit champion, meaning a standard bearer and 3 warriors could be in the pipeline.

I'm trying to stick to Fomoraic for budget purposes, but I'd be excited to take a brush to this fella just because.

 azreal13 wrote:
I'd peg him as the unit champion, meaning a standard bearer and 3 warriors could be in the pipeline.

I'm trying to stick to Fomoraic for budget purposes, but I'd be excited to take a brush to this fella just because.

I thought the Werebears were listed as "Unit Size 1 to 3" though?

@Azreal13 - Cæna is a monstrous beast; he's not monstrous infantry. Some smaller monstrous beasts can be fielded in units, Cæna is one of them.

You'd be wanting Werbera, if you wanted bear-like monstrous infantry...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
@Corgan - the reasons for giving these particular freebies are threefold...

One, as Orlando states, it's easy enough for us to change existing miniatures cheaply, so we can actually afford to give freebies away.

Two, these freebies provide alternates to those that use more than one miniature of the same type in a battle, thus ensuring you can field different miniatures in the same battle.

Third, changing them slightly allows us to give more weapon/armour combinations.

I do find it amusing that a freebie can be "unfair".

Speaking of more annoying freebies!

Update #6

Mar 21 2014
£32,500 - Feral Agathae
Comment

Amazingly, we've got to £25,000 in about five hours. Thank you all!

To celebrate, here's the next project exclusive stretch goal...



...which is free to anybody who has purchased the Craven Fiends of Dis unit (whichever way you've bought it). Otherwise, she's £15 regardless of the reward!

Additionally, she's a project exclusive; she will never, ever be released to the general public, although we do reserve the right to produce her for sale at shows and events.

Please note, the free Feral Agathae is limited to one per backer.

No Exchanges!

Please note, we will not exchange Feral Agathae for any other miniature, so please don't ask! She is tied to her unit.

The reason for doing this is simple - logistically it's a nightmare to exchange miniatures and will lead to errors when we get to packing your orders. Of course, we are very sure that other backers will help out with exchanges, and our forums are the perfect place to do so!

Mierce Miniatures wrote:
@Azreal13 - Cæna is a monstrous beast; he's not monstrous infantry. Some smaller monstrous beasts can be fielded in units, Cæna is one of them.

You'd be wanting Werbera, if you wanted bear-like monstrous infantry...

That means he's that bit bigger? As I'd only want him for display, that simply increases the awesome!

@Mierce

Fair enough

You see my point. It's just that your Kickstarter and the combination of them, are always a good chance to acquire and paint as many possible different of the undoubtly amazing figures you produce.

Mmmm Feral Agathe is pretty damned cool looking.

I wonder if I can talk my wife into letting this KS be my reward for getting all of my papers done before it ends? It will be some good motivation for research; the dark gods know I have been needing some lately.
:(

Back, back to the PhD cave with you, Wehr!

Sounds reasonable to me... although you might consider just adding onto someone else's pledge for models at a discount (or onto a pledge from one of the previous campaigns, for that matter, which are still being fulfilled) if you don't want to go for the full gold level (which is a bit steep).

*HISS* NO! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME GO BACK!

I suspect from the rather deafening silence from the local group that I will end up fronting the bulk of the cash and having other people chip in on minor bits to save on shipping. Maybe not though; the Birther of Storms' first question when I brought it up was "Aren't you still waiting on a few KickStarters?" Not a good sign. Especially considering she is right :-(

The Snake people look wicked good! certainly tempting me to buy them to play with!? what are they called so i can research them?

what are the faction showed in the page before in the sketch that look Orcish with no nose? they are also tempting as the large brutish nature of the looks!

So have they finished fulfilment on their first KS yet? I know the second one is pretty much spread through the entire year.

Yes on KS1 fulfillment, except for the werewulfas unit as far as I can recall, and those are in mid sculpt.

I think wave 1 of KS2.1 is set to ship in June, and seems to be on track.

Welp, in for a hundred, probably more. I'm addicted to Mierce.

Average pledge is sitting about £220 at the moment.

I agree with RiTides, no reason for me to dip my toe in on this one... ALL THE UNITS it is.

Some double up sadly, but the discount at the highest level is much better, so that's not an issue.