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Those new hosts are great! I was concerned at the volume at first, but apparently there's only one new-to-metal unit (the Sword-Melusines) plus the heroes, so that is very manageable! Especially with sticking to existing resin monsters, very smart move there.

Hmmmm.... tempting!

Plus there's only 4 units that havent been sculpted: Spears of Dun Durn, Reoc's pack, Opilites and the Demilegionarius, I thin a few alt arms might need to be done on the banner/herald to warrior conversions, but these should be quick to fulfill.

Some of these are crazy deals. Erebius alone costs 60 in resin. Why yes, I'll take 5 metal demon dudes for free! I only wish we'd had these at the start. Fortunately some update blasts went out to all the old backers. Total is already moving nicely.

These are excellent deals if your'e not into Darklands yet now is the time.

These hosts are exceptionally good deals and feature some v nice models. Have persuaded me to break out of my budget and start an erainn collection

Still hoping for some monstrous hosts (likely or not? Haven't kept up with the comments on this one) but if not I could maybe buy one I missed from New Kindreds, I'd forgotten about them for some reason. It'll be a last minute thing either way.

From taking the temperature in the comments section (Mierce KS comments sections are some of the best on KS), I'd say 'probably not' in terms of likelihood of a lot (any?) Monstrous Hosts showing up.

Not sure if this has been asked before, but I assume that if I order a metal set, I also get the large resin-only models as well, correct?

 RivenSkull wrote:
Not sure if this has been asked before, but I assume that if I order a metal set, I also get the large resin-only models as well, correct?

Yes. At least it was for Metal Age. I backed for the Norse starter so the Holumann unit and human characters are in metal and the trolls are still resin. I don't think anybody wants the monsters to be metal.

Riven, yes that's it - it's just listed as "resin only" to note that it won't be cast in metal.

I'd also say no to monstrous infantry hosts in this one. What follows is speculation, but is based on some of their comments.

The bigger based monstrous infantry (60mm) seem like they probably don't save much on production costs, as the price is only 10% off the resin version. This is likely why all the 60mm based monstrous infantry in this is resin - the savings arent enough to justify the double mold costs and headache of managing an extra item in the webstore. They can have their new metal guys cast up the infantry quickly, and in order to avoid a backlog, need to be able to produce the resin stuff quickly as well. They said one big monster casts quicker than a group of monstrous infantry, so they went with that.

Any reason (other than the illustrator having no clue) why the right hand of these minis are turned 180 degrees wrong?



When lifting the bow to a normal firing position they would either:
1. end up with the back of their right hand against the cheek (which could work if they had the arrow on the other side of the bow, asian style)
or
2. twist the bowstring one full turn (which obviously is impossible even in a fantasy setting).
Or are they supposed to be shooting the bow horisontally to the ground, gangsta style - but making it even more difficult to hit anything by releasing the arrow downwards despite having the arrow on the (in such a case) wrong side?

Confusing.

Wehrkind, is that you?

Artistic license?

Or, that's just how they hold it nocked, and they're rotate it to the correct position upon lifting it into firing position?

 Alpharius wrote:
Wehrkind, is that you?
Artistic license?
Or, that's just how they hold it nocked, and they're rotate it to the correct position upon lifting it into firing position?

Not Wehrkind - but still nitpicking
"Artistic" as in "Having no clue"?
Having the bow half drawn and "rotating" (i.e. shifting the grip) upon lifting is quite impossible (not to mention totally stupid).

The question remains: Why cannot those with enough talent and understanding of the human body to be able to design a miniature spend a few additional seconds of their time to either google or think for themselves regarding how to hold a weapon?

 kendoka wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Wehrkind, is that you?
Artistic license?
Or, that's just how they hold it nocked, and they're rotate it to the correct position upon lifting it into firing position?

Not Wehrkind - but still nitpicking
"Artistic" as in "Having no clue"?
Having the bow half drawn and "rotating" (i.e. shifting the grip) upon lifting is quite impossible (not to mention totally stupid).

The question remains: Why cannot those with enough talent and understanding of the human body to be able to design a miniature spend a few additional seconds of their time to either google or think for themselves regarding how to hold a weapon?

The miniatures themselves may not have the same mistakes as the artwork. I have the Ys bow drunes and their right hands are in the correct position.

Beats me - but the miniatures haven't even been started yet - send them a PM or a comment on the KS page!

Prestor Jon wrote:
[The miniatures themselves may not have the same mistakes as the artwork.
I have the Ys bow drunes and their right hands are in the correct position.

Hopefully.
True:


And, while on the subject, illustrators/sculptors should also learn the rule of thumb (!):
The arrow should be on the same side of the bow as the direction of the drawstring release (i.e on the right of the bow if drawing with the right thumb - and on the left bow if drawing with the right fingers.
Wrong:

Correct:

(a minor, but common error)

Aargh! FFS!

Hadn't pledged yet, as my bank card has been replaced since I last backed and I never seemed to have it to hand when I thought to update my details.

Finally remembered, and it triggered my bank's anti fraud protection! Got that sorted, after nearly an hour and three calls, but KS is still rejecting my card!

 kendoka wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:
[The miniatures themselves may not have the same mistakes as the artwork.
I have the Ys bow drunes and their right hands are in the correct position.

Hopefully.
True:

Spoiler:

And, while on the subject, illustrators/sculptors should also learn the rule of thumb (!):
The arrow should be on the same side of the bow as the direction of the drawstring release (i.e on the right of the bow if drawing with the right thumb - and on the left bow if drawing with the right fingers.
Wrong:

Spoiler:

Correct:

Spoiler:

(a minor, but common error)

I knew I was getting Déjà vu...

At the risk of derailing, I'd say it's not quite as impossible or incorrect as you make out especially judging from some of the ancient archer depictions in that vid

That sounds like the bank hasn't actually fixed the card problems (but just told you they have)

although there's an outside chance its KS having problems updating an existing account, possibly worth setting up a second KS profile (different email address) and seeing if it works with that

(if it does you've got something that will work, if not you KNOW the card hasn't been fixed)

Yet another KS ? As much as I love the mini's I've pretty much given up handing over any more cash until I have the hardcopy of the rulebook in my paws that I pledged for a few years back (might be wrong be buts it was a fair while ago
)

I'm all for a wide range but for the lub of bod just drop the book

It's finished and off to layout and should be at the printers by the end of the month,

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-first-edition/posts/1356744

so the end is in sight

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That sounds like the bank hasn't actually fixed the card problems (but just told you they have)

although there's an outside chance its KS having problems updating an existing account, possibly worth setting up a second KS profile (different email address) and seeing if it works with that

(if it does you've got something that will work, if not you KNOW the card hasn't been fixed)

There was an error I was receiving on my balance checking app and I've put some other (small) transactions through on it, with no problem, so it looks like the issue is with KS, but I'll try the alternate account thing and see.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Looks like the issue is with the card.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Yet another KS ? As much as I love the mini's I've pretty much given up handing over any more cash until I have the hardcopy of the rulebook in my paws that I pledged for a few years back (might be wrong be buts it was a fair while ago
)

I'm all for a wide range but for the lub of bod just drop the book

I think the rules are online if you need them in a timely fashion. Personally I wouldn't be worried about not receiving the book at some point, they deliver pretty consistently and keep us well informed about everything. Just noticed today I got my 124th FE update together with several hundred more updates spread over their other KS. Compare this with the only other KS company I've backed (Creature Caster), it's not a flattering comparison.

JWBS wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Yet another KS ? As much as I love the mini's I've pretty much given up handing over any more cash until I have the hardcopy of the rulebook in my paws that I pledged for a few years back (might be wrong be buts it was a fair while ago
)

I'm all for a wide range but for the lub of bod just drop the book

I think the rules are online if you need them in a timely fashion. Personally I wouldn't be worried about not receiving the book at some point, they deliver pretty consistently and keep us well informed about everything. Just noticed today I got my 124th FE update together with several hundred more updates spread over their other KS. Compare this with the only other KS company I've backed (Creature Caster), it's not a flattering comparison.

Yarp, I love being told I'm not getting my book on a regular basis, sure beats only being told every six months or so, kidding of course, I do want Mierce to do well I just wish they'd take a breather from repeated KS projects and catch up a bit, I know there's been delays for one reason or another, but the last six month really have been a peach of chance to get a new rulebook / system into peoples hands and it just seems squandered on yet more promises of extra fruity jam sometime down the road

Something to tease you with: Jutgar

Living Jutes - I love 'em!

 zedmeister wrote:
A very unexpected Fomoraic stretch! Gul-Gabrax

Spoiler:

Dammit, I'm going to have to pledge for this KS aren't I?

Unfortunately, I doubt these will appear unless the total gets into £100k.

It's a bit like Bullseye (an old UK TV programme). "Here's what you could have had..."

 zedmeister wrote:
Unfortunately, I doubt these will appear unless the total gets into £100k.

It's a bit like Bullseye (an old UK TV programme). "Here's what you could have had..."

What you saying? There's going to be boats in this KS? Interesting.

Might chuck a tenner in now with all the awesome host deals, but at the same time I'm going to be waiting a while for those and the next rulebook and I don't know if I really want to add more to my "Waiting for Mierce" pile.