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Hi there.

I play bretonnians at 1500 points right now. Getting more at christmas.

I run 2 large units of men at arms and 2 units of archers. Only one units of knights with a paladin and 2 spellcasters (one lvl4 the other lvl2). It's done well so far. Beating a Wood elves army, Dwarves and High elves army.
Will this be feasable at larger point values or will it be cut down. Or should I get more knights and go for a more conventional layout.

All comments are relevent


Thank you.

Its definately possible to run Bretonnians this way and the current Meta of 8th edition favours this type of play, with large blocks of infantry grinding out a result.

However I would not completely dismiss the Knightly units as they make great support troops for your infantry blocks, a combination charge of a flanking unit of Knights and the ranks of a steadfast Men at Arms unit is a great combination and I have used this tactic to great effect in larger games (2400-2500) however the inter play between the units and the targets that you attempt o pick out for each of your own units brings far more tactical ploys onto the table top compared to the typical line up big units and charge tactics that I tend to see a lot of at the moment

At higher point battles, it will hold up if you have the proper support, I would suggest at 2250+ you have 9 grail knights and 2 trebuchets. Ignore the grail reliquary and questing knights, and maybe run a block or 2 of KotR to suppliment your M@A blocks. Keep in mind though calvary can still be effective and if you take the proper magical items, you can mitigate the terrain the generally makes life exceptionally hard for heavy cav.

The trebuchets will shine here as well, since most armies are about how many men are in the regiment (or ranks) and M@A aren't going to out stat anyone but skaven slaves and gnoblars really, a good stone toss can really sway the fight to their favor.

A lot of tournament armies are running a single solid block of M@A, around 40 or so, then 24-30 archers with 2 trebuchets then filling in with the rest knights, a lvl 4 lore of life, then a HKB duelist lord. But 2 40-50ish block of M@A can work extremely well in my experiance.

I thought Bretonnians MUST deploy at least 1 unit of KOTR regardless?

Brets must take 1 unit of kotr.

To the op: one huge unit of men at arms is extremely useful as are a couple small units of bowmen.

I would not rely on peasants as the core of your army because they are leadership 5. Supporting one unit with knights or characters is easy, more can be harder.

The peasants are really there to tarpit and screen your knights.

Atlantic wrote:
Brets must take 1 unit of kotr.

To the op: one huge unit of men at arms is extremely useful as are a couple small units of bowmen.

I would not rely on peasants as the core of your army because they are leadership 5. Supporting one unit with knights or characters is easy, more can be harder.

The peasants are really there to tarpit and screen your knights.

Its actually quite easy to remedy this fact, the Virtue of Empathy allows the BSB to be feilded on foot, furthermore any peasant units within 12" can use his Leadership rather then their own (Leadership 8 with re roll) it is definately possible to construct a strong list around a peasant core BUT it really does require some very careful planning and clever tactical ploys

Regardless for brets, you must have 2 trebuchets (only 180 points so why would you not take the s5(10) warmachine), and 1 KotR regiment as well as a bsb to be played legally. Though as Carpe said, Empathy + BSB + M@A can make a horde of them pretty substantial, and be the backbone of an army.

If you take a massive unit of peasants, a BSB with the virtue of empathy and the ruby goblet, and a damsel with lore of beasts and the icon which gives the unit the blessing (aint got the book i'm afraid.) you have a crazy unit with a ward save, ld8 and +1 toughness and strength.

Edit: And can only be wounded on a minimum of 3+

Well if you guy's are interested I have posted my 2500 point Bret list in the army list forum with a little discussion about how and why I built it the way I did

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/486349.page