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Can you force a warbeast to use its animus between resolving an attack and executing an attack from berserk? So for instance, you have a Warpwolf Stalker that is warped for Berserk. It charges into 3 infantry and starts squishing, killing one with it's initial attack, and killing the second with a berserk attack, triggering another berserk attack. Can the Stalker use its animus on itself before performing that 3rd attack?

I am pretty sure it can't since the berserk attack happens immediately after the killing attack resolves, but I was wrong about whether you can force between charging and executing the charge attack it seems too, so I am a little leery of trusting my intuition

Thanks!

Re-read Beserk. If its the same as Doom Reavers it words something like "immediately after making an attack that destroys a model make another attack."

With regards to the Warpwolf Stalker, he cannot sprint between beserk attacks to get to another target of opportunity. Also keep in mind, if you beserk and kill all opponents, and there is one of your own models there with no opponents models... you have to beserk into your OWN model. You must finish all beserk attacks. Its both a advantage, and times a disadvantage.

Beserk also interacts with Warpath remember if your using Kromac. Where both Warpath and Beserk read "immediately." So you can Beserk beat on things. THEN warpath after all Beserking has been resolved. Buying attacks like normal from there.

The Stalker is a wonderful beast, if you think with him "wow this sound too good to be true" often it is

Yea, I know you can't use Sprint to move after killing then kill another, as it is at the end of activation only. What I mean is casting it. I think you are right as Berserk reads "immediately" but pg 74 of Primal under "Use Animus" says that "Once per activation, at any time, a warbeast can be forced to use its animus." Now, you can't do that while resolving something else, like an attack, but you can do that pretty much any other time between doing things. I am asking if this is one of those times.



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Never mind, find the answer on PP's FAQ: http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?42598-FAQ-Circle-Orboros

If something triggers you can't do anything else before it other than another triggered ability.

Even if you can cast the animus at any time (unless resolving another action) you have to wait until the end of your activation to trigger it. So you would have to resolve ALL berserk attacks within range first THEN sprint at the end of your activation.

So your options:
Warp for berserk, charge, smite alots of foes. No ones in range, trigger animus, sprint.
Trigger animus, warp for berserk, charge, smite lots of foes, sprint.

From my experience with the stalker, its best used after resolving the initial attacks no matter what your attacking, the you can make the call do you need sprint? Yes, cast it, resolve everything else. Do I not need it? Do whatever else you need to do, see if its still needed at the end.

You do realize I was asking a different question, right?

Also, you need to have Sprint up when you kill a target to get the movement at the end of activation; you can't kill stuff then cast Sprint and move.

njpc wrote:
Even if you can cast the animus at any time (unless resolving another action) you have to wait until the end of your activation to trigger it. So you would have to resolve ALL berserk attacks within range first THEN sprint at the end of your activation.

So your options:
Warp for berserk, charge, smite alots of foes. No ones in range, trigger animus, sprint.
Trigger animus, warp for berserk, charge, smite lots of foes, sprint.

From my experience with the stalker, its best used after resolving the initial attacks no matter what your attacking, the you can make the call do you need sprint? Yes, cast it, resolve everything else. Do I not need it? Do whatever else you need to do, see if its still needed at the end.

Option 1 is invalid. You must have sprint up prior to getting the kill.

Warpath makes it even more fun because you get to choose between attacks if you move with warpath prior to the next berserk attack to keep the chain going.


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 Wehrkind wrote:
Can you force a warbeast to use its animus between resolving an attack and executing an attack from berserk? So for instance, you have a Warpwolf Stalker that is warped for Berserk. It charges into 3 infantry and starts squishing, killing one with it's initial attack, and killing the second with a berserk attack, triggering another berserk attack. Can the Stalker use its animus on itself before performing that 3rd attack?

I am pretty sure it can't since the berserk attack happens immediately after the killing attack resolves, but I was wrong about whether you can force between charging and executing the charge attack it seems too, so I am a little leery of trusting my intuition

Thanks!

Your berserk chain must end. So you have to miss, fail to beat armor, or have something make a tough roll.

So for example your charge attack you kill one model and berserk a second and kill it, berserk and miss the third. Cast animus. Buy attack. Kill 3rd model and sprint.

 Wehrkind wrote:
You do realize I was asking a different question, right?

Also, you need to have Sprint up when you kill a target to get the movement at the end of activation; you can't kill stuff then cast Sprint and move.

I was just giving you options.
I realized sprint needs to be up after i re-read the card.

No you can cast Lightning Strike after all attacks and Sprint will still trigger.

Baxx wrote:
No you can cast Lightning Strike after all attacks and Sprint will still trigger.

No, Lightning Strike has to be up when you kill a man for Sprint to trigger. Infernal ruling here.

For the link oppressed, basically you can not trigger an ability you don't have, and you don't have Lightning Strike/Sprint before you get the animus on you. So even if you killed a thing before you cast the animus, there is no animus to trigger at that time, so it doesn't do you any good. Likewise, if I have Kromac running around slaughtering things without War Path up, butcher some infantry, and then cast War Path, I can't retroactively move a warbeast with War Path, I need to kill something else before I can move it.

Thanks, I didn't know that!