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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 07:17:58
Subject: Very Bulky
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Hi all, does anyone may resume me what very bulky confers to a model? I don't have my BRB with me and I'm completing a list right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 07:36:40
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Only that he doesn't fit in most transports, and takes up more space in transports that specifically state they can transport Very Bulky models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 07:49:35
Subject: Re:Very Bulky
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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A transport doesn't have to list whether it can take Very Bulky models. It'll specify when it can't take certain troops - for instance, Rhinos state they can't transport models in Terminator armour.
Very Bulky simply means each model with the rule takes more space to transport. I forget how many though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 08:20:16
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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The new CSM codex doesn't state Rhinos cannot transport Terminator models, it now just specifies it cannot transport Bulky, Very Bulky and Extremely Bulky models (while the Land Raider doesn't have that exception, so it could transport e.g. a model in a Palanquin of Nurgle). A trend I assume will continue with the upcoming 6th edition transports.
And note, that you can still only carry Infantry unless specified otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 11:50:35
Subject: Re:Very Bulky
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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It does, doesn't it...good point. And yeah, I expect the trend to continue going forwards. But right now you can pull some odd tricks with Battle Brothers, not that most of the time you'd want to...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 12:06:23
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Can't embark upon allied transports, so no issue there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 13:45:17
Subject: Very Bulky
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Ravager
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Each level confers +1 to transport. So if Bulky is 2 models "slots", do the math for Very Bulky and Extremely Bulky(which I think are now Bike models? Why would they be in transports anyways?!?!?!)
To be honest, there is a reason most Bulky models can teleport =P it's basically a waste to stick a terminator in a transport in most cases, unless it's a Wolf without the Teleporter. But then, just cram em in a drop pod!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 13:47:10
Subject: Very Bulky
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Dakka Veteran
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Without the restrictions it seems like i might be able to transport some obliterators or maybe even chaos spawn in a land raider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 13:48:31
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Extremely Bulky is 5 spaces actually. Automatically Appended Next Post: Cyvash wrote:Without the restrictions it seems like i might be able to transport some obliterators or maybe even chaos spawn in a land raider.
Obliterators can indeed, but you cannot put Chaos Spawn in a Land Raider because they're Beasts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 14:17:06
Subject: Re:Very Bulky
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Leaping Dog Warrior
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Can BA Chaplain or librarian in termie armor go in a drop pod with say 8 death company?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 14:20:24
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Yes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 16:04:03
Subject: Very Bulky
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Morphing Obliterator
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Redemption wrote:Extremely Bulky is 5 spaces actually.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Cyvash wrote:Without the restrictions it seems like i might be able to transport some obliterators or maybe even chaos spawn in a land raider.
Obliterators can indeed, but you cannot put Chaos Spawn in a Land Raider because they're Beasts.
Where is this only infantry rule? If there is no way to transport them for being beasts kinda makes irrelevant giving them the very bulky rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 16:07:56
Subject: Very Bulky
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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ZakFaire wrote:Each level confers +1 to transport. So if Bulky is 2 models "slots", do the math for Very Bulky and Extremely Bulky(which I think are now Bike models? Why would they be in transports anyways?!?!?!)
To be honest, there is a reason most Bulky models can teleport =P it's basically a waste to stick a terminator in a transport in most cases, unless it's a Wolf without the Teleporter. But then, just cram em in a drop pod!
Bikes are very bulky.
And the Night Scythe can carry the necron jetbikes. I know it doesn't make much sense but maybe you don't want them on the board at the very beginning of the game when they're most vulnerable. Automatically Appended Next Post: Lord Yayula wrote: Redemption wrote:Extremely Bulky is 5 spaces actually.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Cyvash wrote:Without the restrictions it seems like i might be able to transport some obliterators or maybe even chaos spawn in a land raider.
Obliterators can indeed, but you cannot put Chaos Spawn in a Land Raider because they're Beasts.
Where is this only infantry rule? If there is no way to transport them for being beasts kinda makes irrelevant giving them the very bulky rule
In the transport rules, pg 78.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 16:13:42
Subject: Very Bulky
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The Hive Mind
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Kevin949 wrote:And the Night Scythe can carry the necron jetbikes. I know it doesn't make much sense but maybe you don't want them on the board at the very beginning of the game when they're most vulnerable.
Unless 6th changed it (can't check my book right now) the jetbikes can't start in the Scythe because it's a Dedicated transport and they can't buy it.
They can Embark any turn after it comes on the board though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 16:18:24
Subject: Very Bulky
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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rigeld2 wrote: Kevin949 wrote:And the Night Scythe can carry the necron jetbikes. I know it doesn't make much sense but maybe you don't want them on the board at the very beginning of the game when they're most vulnerable.
Unless 6th changed it (can't check my book right now) the jetbikes can't start in the Scythe because it's a Dedicated transport and they can't buy it.
They can Embark any turn after it comes on the board though.
Oh ya, that's true. I keep forgetting it's "only" a dedicated transport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 18:11:48
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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You could attach a Destoyer Lord to a squad with a dedicated Night Scythe, if I'm not mistaken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 18:13:57
Subject: Very Bulky
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The Hive Mind
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Redemption wrote:You could attach a Destoyer Lord to a squad with a dedicated Night Scythe, if I'm not mistaken.
Sure - but a Destroyer Lord isn't a jetbike model, and isn't what we were talking about in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 18:17:50
Subject: Very Bulky
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Oh right, keep forgetting Destoyers aren't Jetbikes anymore, but Jump Infantry.
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