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At the very least it will show GW that they can make point changes simply using the Errata. They don't have to wait for a new codex.

My only concern is if we start to see point reductions on models just prior to updated model releases.... although I believe too much is being read into this, they didn't lower the cost due to game balancing , it was simply to make it match the non English books that already had it priced at100. Don't really think you will see this done again.....

Quite frankly I dont care, being able to take a possible 420 Plague zombies AND being legit is my kinda fun, just image how cool that would look on the field XD.

 oni wrote:
Even tho I disagree with the Typhus rule chane, it pales in comparison to how livid I am with the points change to the Helbrute. I don't disagree with the points change I'm just so fething pissed off that it did change. A points change in my opinion is a huge deal and is completely inexcusable.

Why do you disagree with the typhus rule change? a ten man 6 up save toughness 3 unit with no shooting attacks isn't exactly OP.

RAI on zombies was obvious. The 40k zombie apocalypse with hordes of zombies isn't going to be limited to 60 zombies per force org. People can continue to argue that they are overpowered for their cost, but given the chaos codex as a whole is considered pretty well balanced by the player base complaining about zombies now is a waste of time.

As far as the hell brute goes if the English book says 105 points and the French + German books say 100 it's pretty obvious the issue is nothing more than a simple typo. People need to chill out, it's just a typo in a game book. People are acting like it was a medical transcription error that resulted in the death of their mother.

 GalePrime wrote:
Quite frankly I dont care, being able to take a possible 420 Plague zombies AND being legit is my kinda fun, just image how cool that would look on the field XD.

I agree that would look awsome and be mighty expensive but awsome non the less.

Thinking of getting the codex. Not shure what everyone is talking about zombies and there number. Can anyone explain to me what was the problem and how it was fixed.

Typhus's entry said that you could make any unit of Cultists into Zombies. Zombie units could not take any options. Taking additional members is an option.

Things people may realistically see.

Typhus and 70 zombies in an allied detachment for chaos deamon players, that's what I'm doing along with an ac hell drake for a total of 700 points.

Typhus and and 175 zombies in a single force org. That's 980 points and 5 troop choices. The zombies won't do much besides be difficult to get rid off unless the other guy brought purifiers. Personally I think the list would lack teeth, and it's too much spent on anvil units. 105 to 140 is probably the most number of zombies an army can buy before it loses it's teeth.

Depends on the point value.

980 points of zombies could just be enough to choak the enemy's guns and let what support you do bring to do the actual damage.

It will dominate objective based games.

As far as the zombies go....GW knew exactly how they wanted unit to be played. They just nipped alternate aims in the bud with the instant clarification. Remember they've had these rules for eight months you've had these rules for eight days.

I'm glad they heard the chatter and acted on it as concisely and quickly as they did.

Davor wrote:

I agree that would look awsome and be mighty expensive but awsome non the less.

Not as expensive as you'd think....

80 zombie troopers for less than 50 quid.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
As far as the zombies go....GW knew exactly how they wanted unit to be played. They just nipped alternate aims in the bud with the instant clarification. Remember they've had these rules for eight months you've had these rules for eight days.

I'm glad they heard the chatter and acted on it as concisely and quickly as they did.

Have to agree there.

But you know that there are GW employees lurking in the shadows and since Dakka is one of the largest gaming/hobby sites around and lots of smart, competitive people do make their opinions known...

Like my twisted father would say.

If it walks like a duck and squaks like a duck it sure it ain't Cthulhu

I am glad they got this out so fast, and they are all positive.

With that being said, they really needed to address Abaddon! Can he or can he not join other marked units.......

Firstborn wrote:
I am glad they got this out so fast, and they are all positive.

With that being said, they really needed to address Abaddon! Can he or can he not join other marked units.......

To be honest, the MoCA states he counts as having ALL marks - complete with all the trimmings.

So by that he meets the requirement to join any marked unit. Simples!

And this FAQ is wonderfully concise.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

Firstborn wrote:
I am glad they got this out so fast, and they are all positive.

With that being said, they really needed to address Abaddon! Can he or can he not join other marked units.......

To be honest, the MoCA states he counts as having ALL marks - complete with all the trimmings.

So by that he meets the requirement to join any marked unit. Simples!

And this FAQ is wonderfully concise.

But the rulebook also says a marked model can't join a unit that has a different mark......

 GalePrime wrote:
Quite frankly I dont care, being able to take a possible 420 Plague zombies AND being legit is my kinda fun, just image how cool that would look on the field XD.

Imagining how cool it will look on the field is one thing, but I'm worried that the reality will be a Chaos player using his entire Cadian army (no, those are zombies).

 Vladsimpaler wrote:


If it makes you feel any better, some people are arguing that because of the Plague Zombies rule change there is no longer any way to actually nominate a unit of Chaos Cultists as Plague Zombies, therefore no plague zombies in the first place.

Please explain.

Guys.
It has been pointed out at least twice in this thread.
The Helbrute Change IS NOT a points change.
It was a MISPRINT on ENGLISH COPIES. They simply couldn't have some countries paying 100 and some paying 105 so they were forced to change it.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Typhus's entry said that you could make any unit of Cultists into Zombies. Zombie units could not take any options. Taking additional members is an option.

I sincerely hope that at this point this is just a poor attempt at trolling. The issue is shut.

For those that think the zombies op, just bring a template weapon. Watch em vaporize.

 dontfeedjay wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Typhus's entry said that you could make any unit of Cultists into Zombies. Zombie units could not take any options. Taking additional members is an option.

I sincerely hope that at this point this is just a poor attempt at trolling.

Or maybe he was replying to the person directly above who wanted to know what the issue was in the first place?

 Oaka wrote:

 GalePrime wrote:
Quite frankly I dont care, being able to take a possible 420 Plague zombies AND being legit is my kinda fun, just image how cool that would look on the field XD.

Imagining how cool it will look on the field is one thing, but I'm worried that the reality will be a Chaos player using his entire Cadian army (no, those are zombies).

That's fine though.. they are freshly risen cadian soldiers!

So does that mean that the terminator champ can purchase the same gear that the regular terminators can from the codex?

No. He pays a premium.

Darn. What were they talking about with the terminators being able to use all the options? I have the codex and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Only thing I'm still wondering about are do demon princes get marks as well as being a demon of whatever.

 scythewing wrote:
Darn. What were they talking about with the terminators being able to use all the options? I have the codex and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Only thing I'm still wondering about are do demon princes get marks as well as being a demon of whatever.

The Codex says you may take ONE of the three options, which meant you couldn't mix things like Combi-meltas and Chainfists together. Now you can.

Princes are only "Daemons of X", they don't actually have the Mark of X.

No FAQ needs to be said for Abaddon, people are just reading it wrong...

PG 30 of Codex States: "An Independent Character with a Mark of Chaos may not join a unit with a different Mark of Chaos"

PG 57 of Codex States: "He Also has all four MArks of Chaos"

There is no grey line here. He can join any unit he wants with whatever marks they have. He always matches their mark.

Ya I was hoping they were going to change that about the demon of thing. Think it would be only logical that the demon of would have the coresponding marks of said god. I mean we are already paying one heck of a premium for a chaos DP that isn't eternal warrior.

str00dles1 wrote:

There is no grey line here. He can join any unit he wants with whatever marks they have. He always matches their mark.

Exactly. He has that unit's mark. Period. End of.

In a friendly game that makes perfect sense but in a competitive environment people may very well try to argue the point until the FAQ addresses it.

 jonolikespie wrote:
In a friendly game that makes perfect sense but in a competitive environment people may very well try to argue the point until the FAQ addresses it.

To quote Kronk's sig...

Kronk's Signature wrote:This is a game and meant to be fun. If you can't agree with your opponent, find a new opponent and shake the other guy's hand anyway.

The competitive attitude kinda sucks imo...


But as someone that has gotten the new Chaos Codex, I'm glad the FAQ cleared up rules I didn't have questions about because those weren't in my builds >_< But it is great to see how quickly it came out