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I was thinking the other day...... What happens if a machine wraith is in a jack and another tries to get in? is the first one forced out? or does it fai

either
1there both on the same side

or
2there opposing forces

I asked almost the exact same question on PP's website about a year ago. You should do a search over there for an answer. (I forget what the exact wording was but IIRC you can't force one wraith out with another).

Machine Wraiths can only meld with enemy warjacks, so for that to occur you would have to have a Cryx on Cryx match up with both players running Machine Wraiths.

When the second MW melded with a warjack that had another MW inside, he would take control of it but the other MW would not be pushed out because the warjack suffered no damage.

The controler of the first MW could choose to make him pop out of the warjack during its next Maintenance Phase.

Thanks guys

PhantomViper wrote:
Machine Wraiths can only meld with enemy warjacks, so for that to occur you would have to have a Cryx on Cryx match up with both players running Machine Wraiths.

When the second MW melded with a warjack that had another MW inside, he would take control of it but the other MW would not be pushed out because the warjack suffered no damage.

The controler of the first MW could choose to make him pop out of the warjack during its next Maintenance Phase.

This is incorrect

Question from PP Rules forum.

Over on another board is a huge discussion about the following situation:

Your slayer has been taken over by an enemy machine wraith, can your machine wraith repossess it back to be under your control?

Here is the answer from the Infernal

All in all I prefer that people do not answer rules questions when they are not sure that they know the answer.

The answer is no.

 Spyder68 wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
Machine Wraiths can only meld with enemy warjacks, so for that to occur you would have to have a Cryx on Cryx match up with both players running Machine Wraiths.

When the second MW melded with a warjack that had another MW inside, he would take control of it but the other MW would not be pushed out because the warjack suffered no damage.

The controler of the first MW could choose to make him pop out of the warjack during its next Maintenance Phase.

This is incorrect

Question from PP Rules forum.

Over on another board is a huge discussion about the following situation:

Your slayer has been taken over by an enemy machine wraith, can your machine wraith repossess it back to be under your control?

Here is the answer from the Infernal

All in all I prefer that people do not answer rules questions when they are not sure that they know the answer.

The answer is no.

Link if you would be so kind?

Of Course

http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?79002-Machine-Wraith-Vs-Machine-Wraith&highlight=Machine+Wraith

Thank you for your reply.

So:

Originally Posted by Leo_the_Rat
Would you explain the reason why the answer is no? Based on the way the power is written it seems like you could "override" one wraith with an enemy wraith since all of the conditions for the melding are present.

Yes it seems.
That's why it was worth asking. It is one of the very rare cases of "we say so".

So basically it is one of those rare cases where the Infernal "clarification" directly contradict the rules... PP has just dropped a bit in my consideration...

They ask the People at Privateer Press, and they make a decision. Infernal Rulings are as good as their Errata's.

There is no reason why it doesnt work, except the fact, they do not want this happening.

It honestly beats a 10page long argument over if the Sky is Light Blue or Blue.

PhantomViper wrote:
PP has just dropped a bit in my consideration...

Why? I'm sure DC was consulted in this ruling. Perhaps it could prevent a player from putting a Machine Wraith in his own warjack, and using it as a transport.

Mattman154 wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
PP has just dropped a bit in my consideration...

Why? I'm sure DC was consulted in this ruling. Perhaps it could prevent a player from putting a Machine Wraith in his own warjack, and using it as a transport.

Meld already stated that it could only be performed on enemy warjacks, so for that to work the other player had to be controlling the warjack already. There is no reason for this ruling other then the stated "because we said so", that is why I'm a bit disappointed in PP in this regard. But its such a marginal case that its no big deal either way.