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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:28:18
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hey quick question here... I was fighting Imoktek the Stormlord. My opponent won the roll off and told me to go first, then he rolled a 4+ to steal the initiative but when he failed it he chose to use his chronometer to reroll that roll as it says he may reroll one thing per phase in the unit he is attached to.
Stealing the initiative isn't part of a "phase" is it ? Wouldn't this be as dumb as rerolling failed reserve rolls ? Because reserve rolls arnt' rolled during a phase they can't be rerolled or am I just stupid?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:29:30
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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decoste007xt wrote:Hey quick question here... I was fighting Imoktek the Stormlord. My opponent won the roll off and told me to go first, then he rolled a 4+ to steal the initiative but when he failed it he chose to use his chronometer to reroll that roll as it says he may reroll one thing per phase in the unit he is attached to.
Stealing the initiative isn't part of a "phase" is it ? Wouldn't this be as dumb as rerolling failed reserve rolls ? Because reserve rolls arnt' rolled during a phase they can't be rerolled or am I just stupid?
No you were cheated, Stealing the init is a pre-game thing. Phases don't start until the turns do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:31:43
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can he use the chronometer to reroll Imoteks Nightfighting though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:35:02
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I think so. Isn't that desbribed as being rolled at the start of the movement or shooting phase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:35:27
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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The Hive Mind
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It's explicitly allowed in the Necron FAQ. (re-rolling night fighting)
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:35:43
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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If you look at the turn summary on pg 9 it shows 3 phases move/shoot/assault.
there is no beginning of the turn listed, so you kinda have to use common sense that beginning of the turn is the beginning of the movement phase. If thats the case than yes you can re-roll Imo's night-fight. I did this for a bit when their codex first came out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:38:55
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I wasn't sure as I don't play Necrons and I got to experience 5 turns of nightfighting.. was not digging fighting in the dark the entire game with no way to really reverse it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/26 17:39:50
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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The Hive Mind
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What army were you playing? Searchlights are essentially required now. (edit: at least on a few vehicles)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/26 17:40:04
My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/28 16:56:37
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I play the new Chaos Space Marine dex, I had lost my 4 rhinos by turn 2 and they were all I had for Search lights.
My Forgefiends dont have lights, my Heldrakes, my Maulerfiends, Helbrutes. Just your traditional tanks, Landraiders, VIndicators, Predators and Defilers.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/28 16:58:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/28 18:11:38
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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the steal init roll is not eligible for chrono reroll as its not imotek's roll. Imotek only allows you to steal on a 4+. Imotek does not do the stealing you do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/28 18:36:11
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Imotekh also has to be your warlord according to the FAQ, to allow the 4+ steal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/29 11:41:22
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/29 11:42:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/29 13:10:21
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Sergeant First Class
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Aren't reserves rolled for at te beginning of the movement phase? So if it allows a reroll per phase you'd get to reroll one of the reserves. I've also only slept 7 hours in the last 2 days and ran a marathon yesterday ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/29 13:15:15
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It isnt a roll that is made by a mdoel within the unit though, so you cannot reroll it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/29 22:20:35
Subject: Necron, Stealing the initiative and Chronometer
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Sergeant First Class
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Makes sense to me
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