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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Oh gak the battle of coruscant would be EPIC to see on film! Hundred of capital ships, thousands of snub fighters, untold amounts of infantry deploying to the surface...

Excuse me for not understanding, but didn't we do that particular battle in the third episode?

 Happygrunt wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Oh gak the battle of coruscant would be EPIC to see on film! Hundred of capital ships, thousands of snub fighters, untold amounts of infantry deploying to the surface...

Excuse me for not understanding, but didn't we do that particular battle in the third episode?

No... he's talking about after Return of the Jedi... there's an epic battle that the New Republic conquered Coruscant

 whembly wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Oh gak the battle of coruscant would be EPIC to see on film! Hundred of capital ships, thousands of snub fighters, untold amounts of infantry deploying to the surface...

Excuse me for not understanding, but didn't we do that particular battle in the third episode?

No... he's talking about after Return of the Jedi... there's an epic battle that the New Republic conquered Coruscant

Exactly, and third episode of what? Quit talking crazy man

 -Loki- wrote:
As above, how is it a rush job if they're taking until 2015 for the first movie, and using the same release schedule that all of the other movies stuck to?

Because it's such an important movie, and they're just starting on it (and may not for a while as they finish the ownership transition). I'm well aware that they could produce a new Star Wars movie by late 2015, but can they produce a good Star Wars movie? Or will it get rushed out to meet the 2015 deadline?

As for people getting tired of Star Wars, just don't want them anymore.

The point is that the faster you release something the easier it is for people to get tired of it, especially as you use up your best ideas and have to start settling for less just to keep up your schedule. The first Star Wars film in a decade is a major event. The 10th "every 2-3 years for the foreseeable future" Star Wars film in a row is very easily going to be just another milking of the cash cow while most people are tired of it and stopped watching. Just look at what happened with Star Trek, the only thing that saved the franchise was when they stopped making more new movies/shows for a while and then re-launched everything with a new movie.

On the other hand, a slower, more sustainable release schedule has less risk of burnout and better chances of making quality movies and keeping the universe alive.


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm still supporting Wedge Antilles and Rogue Squadron, no to minimal Jedi, a solid group dynamic of fighter jockies in snub fighters taking on the evil empire and kicking serious gak. Give Joss Whedon the reigns (no one handles a group dynamic like Joss, everything he has EVER done proves this), bring in Stackpole and Allison on the writing and I will literally fly out to Disney HQ and grovel at the feet of disney execs.

This, especially with the Wraith Squadron books, which added an element of humor that wasn't really in the Rogue books.

 Testify wrote:
Disney have essentially said they'll keep churning out Star Wars films until they stop selling.

I don't see a downside there...

I know some people hare the story arc...but bring on the Yuuzan Vong! The death of a MAJOR SW character, the damage done to the Solo family, and an alien race immune to The Force? Yes, please. The nice thing about choosing that storyline, it's adult oriented, bloody, tragic, and there are tons of books covering the whole arc-they have lots of wiggle room.

 whembly wrote:
Right seb... 'cuz we're all fanboi

We'll buy GW plastic-crack...

We'll buy SW merchandise/movies...

We're suckers and we don't care!

Exactly. The remarkable thing, both with GW and Star Wars, is how even once people get really bitter about how shameless the selling is they keep buying.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I know some people hare the story arc...but bring on the Yuuzan Vong! The death of a MAJOR SW character, the damage done to the Solo family, and an alien race immune to The Force? Yes, please. The nice thing about choosing that storyline, it's adult oriented, bloody, tragic, and there are tons of books covering the whole arc-they have lots of wiggle room.

DIsney would probably tone it down, they still want it to be appealing to children.

Thrawn trilogy might be good.

 d-usa wrote:
Probably something that keeps the mythology of Star Wars, but not the storyline.

Sure, but what's the mythology at this point?

The problem, to me, is that the elements that made the original story work, an evil empire, a small ensemble of brave heroes, temptation to the dark side, a father/son conflict, and kick ass battle scenes... of those the only one you can repeat without feeling like you're just retelling a lesser version of the original story is the last. So you either tell a new kind of story in the same universe, and get something that isn't really Star Wars, or you retell Star Wars but not as well.

Both approaches have been taken in different Star Wars stories, and while they weren't all good, the better stuff worked well enough for fans to devour. But if all Disney wanted was to keep cashing in on the existing fans, they wouldn't have paid that premium for Lucasfilms. What they want is some new stories in their films that'll make Star Wars even bigger than it is now.

I think there's probably hundreds of EU books out there that tell good enough stories set in the Star Wars world, but I doubt all of them combined did as much to make people love Star Wars as Luke looking out at the moons in the first movie. And I'm not completely convinced there's another story in Star Wars that'll ever do that.




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 whembly wrote:
No... he's talking about after Return of the Jedi... there's an epic battle that the New Republic conquered Coruscant

But isn't that just another big battle? I mean, at this point does it really matter if there's a hundred or a hundred million CGI ships flashing across the screen?

What's the story?

 MrScience wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I know some people hare the story arc...but bring on the Yuuzan Vong! The death of a MAJOR SW character, the damage done to the Solo family, and an alien race immune to The Force? Yes, please. The nice thing about choosing that storyline, it's adult oriented, bloody, tragic, and there are tons of books covering the whole arc-they have lots of wiggle room.

DIsney would probably tone it down, they still want it to be appealing to children.

Thrawn trilogy might be good.

They can still do Thrawn... but, the problem is, they'll probably need new actors.

Question to Dakkanauts: Would you be okay with new actors playing Luke/Han/etc..?? To me, that'd be the only way to go... either that, or go different route.


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 whembly wrote:
No... he's talking about after Return of the Jedi... there's an epic battle that the New Republic conquered Coruscant

But isn't that just another big battle? I mean, at this point does it really matter if there's a hundred or a hundred million CGI ships flashing across the screen?

What's the story?

Honestly... I don't remember... I don't think that was ever fleshed out (New Republic taking over Coruscant).

As to point?

Is there ever? What more to you need than flying ships with laser guns and dude fighting with lightsabres?

I'd be ok with new actors, although they would have to be very careful.

It would probably be better for them to use the original actors with digital enhancements.

And I mean, they are going to play older versions of their original characters.

Disney still have to follow the timeline right? As in they can't bring in a new race into the SW universe to try to conquer all....like Posleen as example

I'm totally ok with Disney purchasing Star Wars. Think of it this way: We get more Si-Fi movies, made with budgets that cannot be matched. At the very least, we'll get a movie with incredible CGI and a half decent plot.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I'd be ok with new actors, although they would have to be very careful.

It would probably be better for them to use the original actors with digital enhancements.

And I mean, they are going to play older versions of their original characters.

It's been done before...

I mean.. the new A-team movie... the actors NAILED their characters.

I wasn't a fan of the TRON digital enhancements... still seemed too fake.... but, I'm a cinema snob... *shrugs*

It depends on how far ahead they are planning to have this series be set.

If its 30 years after Return of the Jedi then we're fine. If its a few months we might even need to just use digital stand ins.

Carrie and Mark look very little like they did back in the 70s. Harrison Ford is almost unchanged beyond his hair color.

 whembly wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
I'd be ok with new actors, although they would have to be very careful.

It would probably be better for them to use the original actors with digital enhancements.

And I mean, they are going to play older versions of their original characters.

It's been done before...

I mean.. the new A-team movie... the actors NAILED their characters.

I wasn't a fan of the TRON digital enhancements... still seemed too fake.... but, I'm a cinema snob... *shrugs*

Loved Tron, "young" Jeff was just a smidge weird on the big screen though. Looks great on my regular TV at home though.

I hope they don't base anything on Dark Empire. It's iconic as far as EU goes but it was an awful story. Luke blocking AT-AT shots for example.

I'm cautiously optimistic. At least George is finally giving someone else a chance! There's a lot of universe to play with, hopefully they can make at least a few good films out of it.

A few other people have mentioned it and I know it's unlikely, but a Rogue Squadron film would be off the hook.

 whembly wrote:
Honestly... I don't remember... I don't think that was ever fleshed out (New Republic taking over Coruscant).

It was rhetorical, I meant 'is there a story there good enough to actually make a movie that people will love, and will make them love Star Wars?'

My point is that if you want big space battles, well thanks to CGI we get those things all the time. The effect is we're basically immune to the spectacle, and not impressed when things are just made bigger. We know you can make one spaceship, then cut and paste and have 5,000 spaceships. It doesn't wow people.

Put that in a story that people love though, and then you've got something.

Is there ever? What more to you need than flying ships with laser guns and dude fighting with lightsabres?

In that I don't really want to sit through another round of prequel quality movies, yeah.


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 Jihadin wrote:
Disney still have to follow the timeline right? As in they can't bring in a new race into the SW universe to try to conquer all....like Posleen as example

Disney don't have to follow it. Nor did Lucas, as he was always that while he might take stuff from the EU, the EU couldn't restrict him when he told stories he wanted to tell.

But when Disney bought up Marvel they were actually pretty respectful of Marvel creative, and have given them free hand to build their own movie brand, and tell the stories they believed would work. Time will tell on how Disney treat Lucasfilm.


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 whembly wrote:
It's been done before...

I mean.. the new A-team movie... the actors NAILED their characters.

Yeah, but there you've got 'bunch of yahoos get into a situation and set up elaborate plans involving lots of explosions to get out of it'. It's a classic 80s action story (I'd argue the new A-Team movie was way more faithful to 80s action movies than the Expendables was). I mean that's a timeless story that actually hadn't been told very well for a while.

But what's the Star Wars story that can get told at this point?

I hope they ignore the EU and just create original stories.

So, does this make Princess Leia a Disney princess?

 Piston Honda wrote:
So, does this make Princess Leia a Disney princess?

Better role-model than most of them.

Except for that small kiss'o'incest.

 Ahtman wrote:
I hope they ignore the EU and just create original stories.

I approve of this statement.

 d-usa wrote:
Except for that small kiss'o'incest.

They didnt know that yet though

And Id love more SW Movies. Rouge Squadron or Thrawn seem like logical places to go with it. Maybe even Sal-Solo?(Human League) As long as they dont go off on their own, im good. If they make a whole timeline obsolete though... Well ill still watch it.... Maybe even like it........ But id be crying inside..

 flamero wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Except for that small kiss'o'incest.

They didnt know that yet though

It is still incestuous though. Not knowing is why they kissed, finding out later is why he sat in the shower and cried.

so after the new trilogy, Disney plans on making more movies every 2 or 3 years? seems a bit much, no?

Well, Bond has ended up with 23 films in 50 years...

 Compel wrote:
Well, Bond has ended up with 23 films in 50 years...

saw a bond film once, hated it.


yup, probably the only guy who does not like bond movies.

 Compel wrote:
Well, Bond has ended up with 23 films in 50 years...

Not the best example.
There were what? Five of them that were any good (not counting ANY of the Daniel Craig ones - or Roger Moore or George Lazenby ).

So maybe one good one every 10 years then. Not 3-5 years between them.

No Dianiel Craig or Roger Moore bond films are any good? No. If you are going to word your subjective opinion as a statement at least refrain from doing it against popular opinion.