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Sisters and Tau can wait since it's just a miniscule fraction of the fanbase that plays those two armies.

 pixelpusher wrote:
Sisters and Tau can wait since it's just a miniscule fraction of the fanbase that plays those two armies.

By that logic everyone can wait a DE 10+ years whilst we just concentrate on an endless rotation of SM armies as they massively outsell any xenos/nonmeq armies.

Fine with me as long as I get my ork codex ASAP.

You are not supposed to reply with logic to trollbaits that obvious.

I'm liking the Warboss retinue idea, but I can see every army justifying that rule, and it is a Necron/Dark Eldar thing. But if it did come in, that could be really cool - one squad of Nobz (like a command squad) which can have 0-3 of Meks, Docs, Weirdboyz, Luftantz (a midway boss) and grotknowwots that you can distribute between mobs.

Considering it was an ork thing first, later eldar (Warlocks are rather like the example as well).

Yea, really according to Ork fluff and whatnot, a mob running around trying to prove themselves to the boss just makes sense. And funny enough, the LoS! rule makes that even funnier, because you know rather then a "SIR!!! INCOMING!! LOOK OUT!!" for Orks itd be closer to "GAH!!! BOLTA ROUNDS!! err.....GET OVA 'ERE ZOGBRAIN!" *snatches up some unsuspecting nob/boy/grot*

I hate how people are complaining about the fnp rumors based on dice. I am sorry if you have to wait a extra minute or two to roll my dice, not everyone wants to play spessmaweens. Orks are fluffed up to be much more survivable than they are on the table. FnP would make this believable. Also, if they get 6+ FnP and keep T4, then they will most likely lose their t-shirt save, and to that I say 'good riddance'.

Don't get me wrong, t-shirt save is great when I make them. I get to laugh at my opponents and dance around, but I'd much rather have a 6+ FnP on classic boys. Also this means that Hard Boys become much more badass too.

 GalacticZ wrote:
Orks are fluffed up to be much more survivable than they are on the table. FnP would make this believable.

^ This. I've always been annoyed by how weakling Orks are on the tabletop compared to how badass they are in the fluff. They should have S4 base, I3 (at LEAST), but failing that, a 6+ FNP on all Ork type units would be acceptable.

I know that there's no real info on this, but what do you all think the Flying Fortress is going to be? I'm hoping we're getting a heavy support flying transport!!! Battle Wagon on Wings please!!!!! What do you all think it might be?

 ArmageddonBorn wrote:
I know that there's no real info on this, but what do you all think the Flying Fortress is going to be? I'm hoping we're getting a heavy support flying transport!!! Battle Wagon on Wings please!!!!! What do you all think it might be?

Add Tesla coils and then it will look even better ...

squadrons of 3, 35pts per model. there we go (I can dream right?)

I was thinking something like a storm raven or flying BW stats 14/12/10

Hopefully with transport capacity 20 + a dredd or 12 + 3 killa kans, or 12 + 6 bikes or something like that

Heck we could hope for 30...

yeah. well, realistically speaking, I am hoping for a flying BW with BW AVs. I can understand if there are some pro/con conditions, and maybe we can swap out transport cap for a bigger gun or something. I'm just hoping I can populate my heavy support slots with flyers too. Then if they can just give me an HQ that has FOC-manip that allows me to take deff koptas as troops - all flying orks woohoo! May not be the most competitive list, but boy will it be fun!

Tbh If we get a flying BW I will be painting it as Astrotrian...

For those who are not in the know I paint all my ork tanks as G1 Transformers (just because everyone want optimous prime on their team)

I'm just going to throw this out here, but....

What if we get giant Orks for the gribbly-monster-thing we're scheduled to have?

I mean, it's not uncommon to see giant Orks. There were a few named ones in the Heresy and you see mentions of larger Orks poking up sporadically through the fluff.

And, for justification, the big lugs are too stupid to think above that of livestock or an animal, which is why they aren't leading their own boyz.

I'm just saying this because I want to use a Mountain King in my army

I'd love a MC HQ, with tons of options, kind of like the Daemon Princes of the Emo Marines codex.

Also, a revision of the Waaagh benefits. Bonus to initiative and 6"+d6" charge distance, for example. Right now, Waaagh is almost just for flavor.

I'd like to see propa flash gitz too. The ones in DoW2 Elite mod are awesome. And talking about dakka, it'd be sweet if they made some changes to boyz. For example allowing multiple burnaz for slugga boyz and multiple big shootas for shoota boyz.

And if we got some better armor choices, that'd be cool.

If we got these things and nothing else, I'd have been content.

I think that I'd be totally on board with some kind of either MC or mega-deffdread. I just think that the MCs that Tyranids and Daemons put out are a nightmare for my ladz to face, as I don't own lootas (which I don't regard as particularly interesting or fluffy) and I'd like to be able to at least try to handle threats in melee, the supposed Ork-centric phase.

I'd love to see a huge transport flyer.

Id like to see an ork landa. A big, drop pod esque transport with room for twenty, and becomes an av12/12/12 building once it touches down.

 Afrodactyl wrote:
Id like to see an ork landa. A big, drop pod esque transport with room for twenty, and becomes an av12/12/12 building once it touches down.

That would probabaly most likely be an Ork Rok... except it would probs be AV 10 all-round and will apear as a large pie-plate Str 10 AP2 (This would be called meteioric decent), then place it as the Rok ...

A Rok doesn't sound like a very interesting model to build and kitbash though.

@Charles, Lootaz aren't fluffy? I think they are right in line with blood axe fluff. I am working on a fw mega dread, I would love to see more walkers they make such a motley force.

 Anung Un Rama wrote:
A Rok doesn't sound like a very interesting model to build and kitbash though.

There's plenty of fancy looking Rok's built in BFG, just imagine Asteroid mixed with Ship.

A fine cast model that is the best in the industry! That'll be $60.00 please.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 pixelpusher wrote:
Sisters and Tau can wait since it's just a miniscule fraction of the fanbase that plays those two armies.

By that logic everyone can wait a DE 10+ years whilst we just concentrate on an endless rotation of SM armies as they massively outsell any xenos/nonmeq armies.

Dont we do that already?

Its hard to mess up orks, i mean they ruined orcs and goblins but orks are much more popular...

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
Its hard to mess up orks, i mean they ruined orcs and goblins but orks are much more popular...

Ruined Orcs and Goblins how? I still use that army with great success, a good mid-tier codex.

 battlematt wrote:
@Charles, Lootaz aren't fluffy? I think they are right in line with Deff Skulls fluff.

Fixed that for you.

Although to be fair if he has Goff's I can see his point.

Right now my main two wants model wise are plastic Buggies and Manz, anything new in general will be a bonus. New unit types/rules entries that would interest me in particular are teleporta Orks, finally taking advantage of the Orkamedies story, and the long awaited return of Madboyz.

Stickmonkey:

Rumor is the battle wagon is getting reboxed, and will include the deffrolla sprue. ETA 2013. Price rise expected.
I'm hearing an ork wave with buggies/trax, new battle wagon box (old battlewagon with deffrolla incl), tank bustas/flashgitz plastics and deffcoptas.

This is in contention for Q2 model wave release.

About time they added the Deffrolla. It's intergal to the vehicle if you ask me.
Also I'd expect the BW to lose all viability in the new codex since they have to know that everyone already has 3-6 of them (Kind of like what they did to Necron destroyers) and replace it with buggies/trakks since they know no one has any.
Fortunately I have 6 scratch built buggies that I never need to replace since they are so effing rad.

Due to the model leak it looks like we'll be getting a Flakk option on our Buggies, which is great. it's probably too much to hope for that our Battlewagons might get updated with a Flakk weapon as well if we're getting a re-box of the Battlewagon.